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Old 04-24-2021, 06:00 PM
 
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Otherwise I cannot see what law enforcement can do except refuse to intervene in black on black crime.
That would be prudent, and what union stewards on unionized forces should be advising cops, in the urban jungles, to do.

If they want cops, treat them as you wish to be treated. You hired them to protect the community, not to be martyrs. If we crucify any profession, we have no right to expect service from it.
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The internet wasnt armed. Or did you forget?

Please, communicate your idea to your QA team, and watch them laugh.

Right now-and for at least another decade-human police are the way to go. We arent even in a place to begin what you are suggesting. 10 years from now when we have the processing power to come close to a humans for a reasonable price? MAYBE. But were also going to have to get FAR FAR better QA then what humans do. Even now QA uses a ton of automation, and even some neural networks for object recognition on screens, etc. When we move the AI into a better understanding of how things are coded, and the intent, then maybe we will be getting closer.

We’re way closer than a decade away. There are already combat drones in existence. AI and drones is already a thing. It’s really only a matter of time honestly. The only thing that would delay it is politics and oriole who are afraid to try new things. Plus police drones are already being used in some cities already. So it’s mint sooner than later.

Plus for someone who did software engineering for 20 years it’s like you’ve never heard of roll outs. Like drones only being tested for certain sort of calls, then once confidence is up they can be deployed to more cities and more precincts. I personally would prefer police drones be left up to the free market. But that’s not going to happen with our current government.
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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i predict the drone would have acted the same, especially with that adult male kicking another teen down on the ground (which no one seems to mention). added
to the violence at that scene.
Doubtful. No only could a drone get closer. But it could knock the knife out the girl’s hand without fear of being stabbed itself.

The drone has more options because it doesn’t have a sense of fear. So it could get closer to the action. Deploy a taser. Knock the knife out of the girls hand. And various other measures. Drones can do a lot of stuff and can be equipped with a lot of different tools. And they actually move a lot faster since they can fly.


So I actually think the amount of options open up. There is no way a drone would react the same way. It would do whatever a simulator would do. And a simulator the best option wouldn’t be to shoot the girl from a distanance.

The best option actually is to wrestle the girl with a knife the the ground. And take it out of her hand. So it wasn’t the best option . The only reason we believe lethal force is the right option is because we fear the officer’s safety. But the drone wouldn’t necessarily need to fear for its safety. Since most computers just follow their program and aren’t concerned with self preservation
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The best option actually is to wrestle the girl with a knife the the ground. And take it out of her hand. So it wasn’t the best option. The only reason we believe lethal force is the right option is because we fear the officer’s safety.
The officer was too far away. Pink would have been cut before he could get there.
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The officer was too far away. Pink would have been cut before he could get there.
He would be too slow because he’s human. A drone would be much faster
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Various
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Boy we are all suffering from absurd views.

The dead lady charged two females. Knocked one down and then turned on Pinkie. She did not in any way stab the first person she knocked down. So one would have to presume she was not out to stab anyone.
Talk about suffering from absurd views.... Such irony.

If pink lady were your daughter, would you hold the same absurd presumptions?

I'd tend to think the fact the dead criminal was yelling "I'm going to stab the f out of you" while lunging and stabbing at her with a knife tells us something about her intent.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:06 PM
 
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The dead lady charged two females. Knocked one down and then turned on Pinkie. She did not in any way stab the first person she knocked down. So one would have to presume she was not out to stab anyone.


Perhaps she was just helping her little sister do a Girl Scouts cookie sale there.

Like Floyd, I'll let the tape via her voice tell me her intent. She was yelling she was going to (avoiding the prior word) stab the (avoiding this word) out of the victim.

Fortunately, the cop got there in time, and she did not succeed.

Cop 1, Stabber 0..for those scoring at home.
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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I think the shooting was irresponsible. He risk shooting the other girl too and many more people. He literally fired into an area of crowded people. He should have at least fired a warning shot in the air to get their attention.

I do get it. Mistakes do happen. But these are not trivial mistakes. Lives are lost when these mistakes happen. So even if he made a mistake. There should still be jail time. If a doctor made a mistake and performed some sort of mal practice on your relative. You'd be begging for him/her to serve jail time and have his medical license revoked.


Everyone makes mistakes. But mistakes don't all have the same impact. These mistakes end lives. So yes something should be done. And a slap on the wrist isn't enough. I think he at least 1-3 years in prison.
Whichver black girl called the cops in the 1st place should go to prison. What kind of an idiot calls the racist police to handle a teenage argument. If the dead girl's the one who called, oh well, she should have known better. Accessory to her own death.
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Old 04-25-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Whichver black girl called the cops in the 1st place should go to prison. What kind of an idiot calls the racist police to handle a teenage argument. If the dead girl's the one who called, oh well, she should have known better. Accessory to her own death.
You forgot the sarcasm tag.
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Old 04-25-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New England
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Shooting a knife wielding assailant caught in the act of assault is a lot different from kneeling on her neck for nine minutes. Candidly speaking, I'd shoot too.
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