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Old 04-24-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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Where are you getting your data? If you're going to post numbers, you should include your reliable, authoritative, credible sources.
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...a-by-province/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...gston-jamaica/
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:42 AM
 
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Where are you getting your data? If you're going to post numbers, you should include your reliable, authoritative, credible sources.
Part 2: Switzerland.

https://knoema.com/atlas/Switzerland/Homicide-rate
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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Switzerland isn't on that list either. Neither is the Czech Republic.

The USA has a large underclass, very large among industrialized nations. Alot of murders in the USA are driving by anger/arguments. Stabbings, shootings, blunt force violence. And a culture of violence among some.

And within Canada, Nunavut has a homicide rate of 17.81 per 100,000. While this is not representative of Canada as a whole, Nunavut's homicide rate is higher than any state in the USA. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are next on the list. Both provinces have populations comparable to New Hampshire. Both provinces have more murders than New Hampshire. New Hampshire has often had a homicide rate around 1 to 1.5 per 100,000 over the last 25 years, some years as low as 0.8 per 100,000. Only in 2019 did it hit 2 per 100,000 or higher.

Canada has a lower murder rate than America, but like America, it's not evenly distributed. MB and SK have the highest homicides rates of any place not named Nunavut. 5.23 per 100,000 in Manitoba and 4.68 per 100,000 in Saskatchewan. In America, Vermont and New Hampshire are among the safest states in the USA. Louisiana is among the most dangerous.

One of the reasons I'm not in favor of banning guns. Look at Jamaica. That country tried to ban guns and the murder rate surged. Kingston has a murder rate nearly twice as high (169 per 100,000) as America's worst city, St. Louis (89 per 100,000).

Switzerland isn't a difficult country to get a gun. It has a long-standing gun culture, mostly rooted in sport shooting and hunting. It has a murder rate of 0.6 per 100,000.
Stop with facts, logic, and common sense.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:10 AM
 
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Stop with facts, logic, and common sense.
I'm just trying to put this in a proper perspective. This is also why I made compare and contrast points between Atlanta and St. Louis.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:12 AM
 
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You are extrapolating state data to make conclusions about crime in individual cities.

I live in Mo. Mo is a predominantly white state, but the violent areas (st. Louis and KC) are in areas with a disproportionately high black population.

When we go to St. Louis, it is only for theater or sporting events. Those areas are safe (provided it is not too late at night) as the cops patrol them heavily. Nearly all the crime in St. Louis is perpetrated by the black population there, so people just avoid those parts of town.

Sr. Louis population is declining, but the population of the suburbs is increasing. People have just moved from the violent urban area to the safer burbs. That trend will continue as crime continues in St; Louis proper. East St. Louis is like Somalia and doesn't even look like the US.
I extrapolated both state data and talked about the differences between St. Louis and Atlanta. I notice you didn't say a word about Atlanta. I went on to compare Black populations between Missouri and Georgia. There was a reason I did that.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:20 AM
 
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Just curious.

Why do these largely Black populated and Black run cities have these problems? Is it the policies they put in place? Is there too much big government or too little government in these cities?
St Louis has always been a high crime city though with a lot of serial killers running through there. There are people these Black leaders answer to whp obviously don't have the community's best interest in mind. Then you look at things like the entertainment industry which isn't run by Blacks (especially in music). You think those White and Jewish record owners are approving wholesome music to be produced and played on the radio? NOPE!
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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When we go to St. Louis, it is only for theater or sporting events. Those areas are safe (provided it is not too late at night) as the cops patrol them heavily. Nearly all the crime in St. Louis is perpetrated by the black population there, so people just avoid those parts of town.

Sr. Louis population is declining, but the population of the suburbs is increasing. People have just moved from the violent urban area to the safer burbs. That trend will continue as crime continues in St; Louis proper. East St. Louis is like Somalia and doesn't even look like the US.
Sounds like St. Louis is becoming another Detroit. An invisible wall between city and suburbs, and a city that looks like Somalia (or Beirut) that suburbanites go to only for sporting or other events. And then they skedaddle back to the suburbs.

I lived in Metro Detroit during the years the Red Wings enjoyed their Stanley Cup wins ('97, '98, '02, '08). Every year after the games, there'd be a short celebration downtown, and then everyone would get into their SUVs and minivans and head back to the 'burbs.

In the cities I grew up in (Toronto and Montréal) a Stanley Cup win (or any major sports win) means a huge, safe party downtown well into the early morning hours.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:34 AM
 
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St. Louis has been a rough, murderous cities going as far back as the 1960s. Look up the Pruitt-Igoe projects. They were completed in 1956. A decade later, it became infamous for violent crime and poverty. Ironically, they were built to alleviate problems St. Louis has having during the 1940s and 50s. 1940s/early 1950s St. Louis was described as something out of a Charles Dickens novel. History of Missouri:1953 to 2003 by Larsen, Kirkendall, and Stewart talks about how some people saw St. Louis at that time.

Pruitt-Igoe was built to deal with the slums of St. Louis. After 1957, housing occupancy in Pruitt-Igoe declined for years after. P-I got so bad that it started being torn down in 1972. The architect who helped design it, Minoru Yamasaki had this to say when he saw all the decay of Pruitt-Igoe in the late 1960s: "I never thought people were that destructive".

Memphis has been a violent city from day one. It was rough and very unsanitary during the post-Civil War years. Yellow fever epidemics decimated the population. Many who remained were those who were too poor to leave. This left Memphis with a more raw character. Memphis also had organized crime. Memphis was one of the most murderous cities in America during the early 20th century. And it was easy for some to get away with murder in Memphis.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:34 AM
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Most of the murders are just misunderstood youth or young people. Nothing to see here. It is pretty much in line with demographics of cities if you just want to look at statistics.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:39 AM
 
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until black people figure out how to culturally change the problem of black on black crime, nothing will change..

sounds accurate as this is the majority of the said problem...not cops.
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