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Old 04-24-2021, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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2018 left leaning Economist You Gov poll showed 67% of Democrats believed Russia changed vote tallies. No evidence. Blue Anon.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...ng%3f_amp=true

2018 Gallup poll shows 78% of Democrats believe Russia changed the election results. No evidence. Blue Anon.

https://www.tremr.com/rchusid/gallup...ection-results
Well that is horrible - and mistaken. Thanks.
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Old 04-24-2021, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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2018 left leaning Economist You Gov poll showed 67% of Democrats believed Russia changed vote tallies. No evidence. Blue Anon.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...ng%3f_amp=true

2018 Gallup poll shows 78% of Democrats believe Russia changed the election results. No evidence. Blue Anon.

https://www.tremr.com/rchusid/gallup...ection-results
The actual gallup poll. https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/...ns-russia.aspx

Does not say 78% believed Russia manipulated the actual votes, just that they "changed the outcome" which could have meant simply affected people's decision through disinformation.

I agree that votes were not actually changed by Russia and I think even asserting the outcome was changed is a spurious argument since that is not knowable, everyone made their decision based on multiple factors, even if they were exposed to any of Russia's political messaging.
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Old 04-24-2021, 08:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
Shockingly the MSM never reported this.
The MSM encouraged this false belief by running wild with any Trump Russia story with little to no evidence than some anonymous source that would be incorrect.



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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
The actual gallup poll. https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/...ns-russia.aspx

Does not say 78% believed Russia manipulated the actual votes, just that they "changed the outcome" which could have meant simply affected people's decision through disinformation.

I agree that votes were not actually changed by Russia and I think even asserting the outcome was changed is a spurious argument since that is not knowable, everyone made their decision based on multiple factors, even if they were exposed to any of Russia's political messaging.
The first poll, which leans left, clear as day asks if Russia changed vote totals to get Trump elected and a supermajority of Democrats thought so.
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Old 04-24-2021, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The first poll, which leans left, clear as day asks if Russia changed vote totals to get Trump elected and a supermajority of Democrats thought so.
"Tampered with vote tallies", yeah that does seem to suggest that. Have to agree that's delusional.
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Old 04-24-2021, 09:11 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Seems odd to be fearful of an audit of something 100% above board and accurate.
It seems odd to continue auditing the same ballots over and over. A sign of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome. The election was audited and it was certified as an accurate outcome.
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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From Twitter on Friday....

JUST IN - Maricopa judge orders a temporary halt to the Arizona forensic election audit until Monday, due to a last-minute lawsuit by the Arizona Democratic Party and County Supervisor citing "security issues.

These people will go to any and all lengths to protect the fraudulent election.

Arizona is auditing the vote.... and the democrats, no surprise - are trying to stop it.

I wonder what they are afraid of.
Seriously, BeerGeek40, you as a Republican, wouldn't you want the court to put a stop to a vote audit or recount in which only Democrats would be doing it for an election in which a Republican just barely won?
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What are the democrats hiding? I thought they were for transparency
Seriously, ttboy, you as a Republican, wouldn't you want the court to put a stop to a vote audit or recount in which only Democrats would be doing it for an election in which a Republican just barely won?
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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They scared. lol They cheated and know it. We all know it.
Seriously, diddlydudette, you as a Republican, wouldn't you want the court to put a stop to a vote audit or recount in which only Democrats would be doing it for an election in which a Republican just barely won?
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Stop being cute. You know it was the democrats who perpetuated the fraud. If the democrats did nothing wrong, then they should welcome an audit.

How much money did Zuckerberg give to Maricopa County?

https://www.whitehouse.news/2020-12-...officials.html
Seriously, BOS2IAD, you as a Republican, wouldn't you want the court to put a stop to a vote audit or recount in which only Democrats would be doing it for an election in which a Republican just barely won?
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Old 04-24-2021, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What is unfair about this particular recount?
Seriously, momonkey, you as a Republican, wouldn't you want the court to put a stop to a vote audit or recount in which only Democrats would be doing it for an election in which a Republican just barely won?
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