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Every "job" does not and can not provide that. Every job is not that valuable, but still needs to be done by someone. Why get advanced skills and accept a dangerous occupation if all your needs can be supplied by sweeping out the restroom 3 times a day?
You are being too literal. We are saying $15 per hour, not $25 or $30. Most jobs that require a advance education pays far more than $15 per hour.
In Charleston SC - foodie city dependrent on tourist -- we hav ebeen hearing about an employee shortage for at least 7 years.....but let's blame Biden because -- you are all idiot puppets.
I don’t blame Biden specifically for the current topic. I blame the government in general for mucking about with the economy by making it possible to get paid enough while not working that permanent unemployment seems like a viable option. It was a growing issue before the pandemic as well, but our government doubled down during the shutdown.
In 1998 I was making $13.50 an hour as a line cook in a French restaurant. According to the Bureau of Labor statistics that would be $22.13 in today's money. No line cook in Minneapolis is making $22.13, most are in the $15 to $18 range.
Also in 1998, fast food restaurants like McDonalds here were paying $9 to $10 an hour here. Adjusted for inflation that would be between $14.75 and $16.39 in today's money. Anyone want to guess how many fast food restaurants are paying that?
I have a couple of observations. As people get older they tend to loose their grasp of what inflation has done to the costs of things so they don't realize that numbers that seem high aren't actually as high as they seem. The other is that a lot of right wingers who's roots are in the Reagan era or earlier really seem to think that the working class deserve bad lives, that economics is part morality play.
People need to realize that restaurant and hospitality work is not something that is done by teenagers or students anymore. The professionalization of the restaurant industry is the reason why dining has improved so much in this country over the last 30 years. But at the same time wages in the industry have been falling in inflation adjusted terms.
Also over this time period there has been a profound shift in working class jobs away from manufacturing and towards hospitality and services. The hospitality industry now employs 10% of the American work force. The restaurant is the new factory in terms of employment.
If our economy is driven by consumer spending (which it is), and wages are falling or stagnant for the working class (which they are), then where does growth come from?
We have people who claim to be capitalists who say that on one hand the working class deserve to be paid low wages because they don't have degrees, but on the other hand don't realize that those low wages hurt our economy because they stifle demand. Wall street has become really good at controlling the hourly labor costs of America's non college educated workforce. The problem is that each companies' labor cost in aggregate represent the amount of demand in our economy. They will become so good at controlling labor costs that only a small number of people will be able to afford to buy their products. If you want to know how that plays out in the long run look at Latin America, because that has been their economic structure since the end of Spanish colonialism.
Restaurants cannot find enough workers due to an overreliance on illegal immigrants and the borders are now more restricted. There fixed the headlines for you.
Restaurants cannot find enough workers due to an overreliance on illegal immigrants and the borders are now more restricted. There fixed the headlines for you.
I was going to post on this earlier. Fortunately you opened the subject up.
You are correct.
Back in 2019 we were starting to have problems getting the people we needed in canneries and farms, mostly due to restrictions on legal work visas.
Of course, these policies were designed to free up jobs for people native to the United States, but more often than not native born US citizens shun that type of work except as a temporary expedient. As soon as something better comes along they are gone.
No one raising kids today is doing so with the object of providing our nation with the dishwashers and burger flippers we need. Everyone wants them to get good jobs, and make their parents proud!
For the last few years the supply of legal and illegal immigrants has been squeezed quite a bit, and the Covid crises and subsequent economic collapse has slowed the entry of people even more.
What we are seeing is the precise goal of our policies protecting the border: making jobs available for US citizens to fill, with the obvious expectation that employers would probably have to raise wages sooner or later. Not that they would want to of course, but it would be unavoidable.
I was going to post on this earlier. Fortunately you opened the subject up.
You are correct.
Back in 2019 we were starting to have problems getting the people we needed in canneries and farms, mostly due to restrictions on legal work visas.
Of course, these policies were designed to free up jobs for people native to the United States, but more often than not native born US citizens shun that type of work except as a temporary expedient. As soon as something better comes along they are gone.
No one raising kids today is doing so with the object of providing our nation with the dishwashers and burger flippers we need. Everyone wants them to get good jobs, and make their parents proud!
For the last few years the supply of legal and illegal immigrants has been squeezed quite a bit, and the Covid crises and subsequent economic collapse has slowed the entry of people even more.
What we are seeing is the precise goal of our policies protecting the border: making jobs available for US citizens to fill, with the obvious expectation that employers would probably have to raise wages sooner or later. Not that they would want to of course, but it would be unavoidable.
So now is the time to raise wages.
Here in Charleston they were complaining about a shortage of workers in 2014......
I was going to post on this earlier. Fortunately you opened the subject up.
You are correct.
Back in 2019 we were starting to have problems getting the people we needed in canneries and farms, mostly due to restrictions on legal work visas.
Of course, these policies were designed to free up jobs for people native to the United States, but more often than not native born US citizens shun that type of work except as a temporary expedient. As soon as something better comes along they are gone.
No one raising kids today is doing so with the object of providing our nation with the dishwashers and burger flippers we need. Everyone wants them to get good jobs, and make their parents proud!
For the last few years the supply of legal and illegal immigrants has been squeezed quite a bit, and the Covid crises and subsequent economic collapse has slowed the entry of people even more.
What we are seeing is the precise goal of our policies protecting the border: making jobs available for US citizens to fill, with the obvious expectation that employers would probably have to raise wages sooner or later. Not that they would want to of course, but it would be unavoidable.
Restaurants cannot find enough workers due to an overreliance on illegal immigrants and the borders are now more restricted. There fixed the headlines for you.
Solve the problem by making them legal. Mexican restaurants or any other shouldn't have to break the law by smuggling in Mexican or other nationality of workers from Mexico.
Solve the problem by making them legal. Mexican restaurants or any other shouldn't have to break the law by smuggling in Mexican or other nationality of workers from Mexico.
That would have my support! They are here anyway, and likely not leaving on their own. May as well start collecting taxes from them.
Not exactly a wage issue alone. Field workers out here make $20-25/hr with pretty generous bonuses. It's California and that's not that much here, but there's a lot of people that don't make $20-25 hr and it's much less seasonal than in other parts of the country, pretty much year-round.
I mean, glass houses right. When I was unemployed and struggling to find work, it's not like I thought about field work either. Hell, in high school/college I worked part-time at a pharmacy and was family friends with the owner whose family also owned a few thousand acres, mostly orchards, grew up on the edge of some of the best farmland in the country. During summers when I was trying to find more hours they always tried to get me them but they weren't running a charity. At the same time he'd often have conversations about the difficulty in getting farm labor. Never really dawned on either of us that, hey, field work pays more than working part-time in a pharmacy and maybe I should go do some fieldwork for whichever company he had doing his farm labor for him. I probably knew enough Spanish to get by... but yeah, status thing. He'd never have let his kids work in the fields. My parents would never have encouraged me to do it. I did some roofing, house painting, and warehouse work so it's not like I was opposed to physical work. But field work? Never thought of it.
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