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View Poll Results: What happens if fraud is PROVEN in the 2020 presidential election?
revote in the states in which fraud occurred 15 10.07%
disqualification of those who gained office via fraud and "2nd place" installed 16 10.74%
revote of the entire nation- fraud candidates disqualified 9 6.04%
nothing at all 91 61.07%
state legislatures recast electoral votes 18 12.08%
Voters: 149. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-16-2021, 03:40 PM
 
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Normally there is a reason for an investigation of an election other than "belief", there was nothing out of the ordinary in Maricopa County so why do they need to perform an audit.

There have been recounts and there have been audits, this has been going on for 6 months so when does it end.
There must be a reason because they are, in fact, investigating. Something seems off, doesn't add up or whatever. Might as well get to the bottom of it.
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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There must be a reason because they are, in fact, investigating. Something seems off, doesn't add up or whatever. Might as well get to the bottom of it.
Yes, they are investigating. But only because Donald Trump told them something seems off. The Republicans in Maricopa County say otherwise.

Face it, the Maricopa County election audit is happening because Donald Trump wants it to happen. It feeds the Big Lie.
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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Yes, they are investigating. But only because Donald Trump told them something seems off. The Republicans in Maricopa County say otherwise.

Face it, the Maricopa County election audit is happening because Donald Trump wants it to happen. It feeds the Big Lie.
If there is nothing there to find than nothing will be found. What's the worry?
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:58 PM
 
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If there is nothing there to find than nothing will be found. What's the worry?
OK, since the mods are allowing multiple threads to propagate on the same topic, let me just copy this over from another thread. It's something I posted within the past half hour.

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Arizona Senate audit liaison Ken Bennett has walked back the claims of election fraud made by unnamed people who managed the audit's Twitter account. Per Bennett:

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"The tweet could have been worded differently but I thought it was correct that there were deleted files. We didn't say there was any thing malicious. Maybe it was deleted because it was a duplicate of something that was elsewhere."

When asked about the tweet from the audit Twitter account that claimed "This is spoliation of evidence!", Bennett responded that:

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"We tweet out that there is an explanation and there is no spoliation of evidence at all."
Yep, the Arizona Senate audit liaison just pulled the rug out from underneath the claim of fraud in the Arizona election.

Bottom line - hire clowns, expect a clown show.
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Old 05-16-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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OK, since the mods are allowing multiple threads to propagate on the same topic, let me just copy this over from another thread. It's something I posted within the past half hour.

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Arizona Senate audit liaison Ken Bennett has walked back the claims of election fraud made by unnamed people who managed the audit's Twitter account. Per Bennett:




When asked about the tweet from the audit Twitter account that claimed "This is spoliation of evidence!", Bennett responded that:



Yep, the Arizona Senate audit liaison just pulled the rug out from underneath the claim of fraud in the Arizona election.

Bottom line - hire clowns, expect a clown show.
O.k. as best as I can tell there is some evidence of deleted files but they can not say at this time that the files were deleted maliciously or even on purpose and that if they were deleted there may have been good reason to delete them.

I'm not seeing where they are saying that files were never deleted though. Am I missing something?
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Old 05-16-2021, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Being that our election and our president is fraudulently installed we will never be on solid ground. When the evils of people build on it there will be nothing but corruption and the American people will bare the cost . We are seeing it now. The Biden presidency is already baring the evils of it.. war breaking out the middle east , cyber criminals taking us down and Biden's response so weak it is embarrassing. We are in 120 days in the Biden's presidency and nothing but craziness, our borders in crisis, gas shortages,inflation, the dollar will weaken, and we are now close to World War III.



America and Americans by this poll shows how they turn their head and accept corruption and fraud. America has no moral fiber and we are being destroyed from within because of the left and many don't care about ethics, or righting any wrongs. As a moral people we should not go along with criminal activity, tyranny, evil and fraud.



We are doomed if we continue with accepting fraud . Many Americans today are indifferent and stand with corruption. Bad is good and good is bad to them.. just as in the end times. They no longer stand against evil and corruption so it will overtake this country.
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Old 05-16-2021, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There must be a reason because they are, in fact, investigating. Something seems off, doesn't add up or whatever. Might as well get to the bottom of it.
No there is no solid reason for this audit, you would be hard pressed to come up with any facts that drove this investigation.
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Being that our election and our president is fraudulently installed we will never be on solid ground...
Well then, since our election and president were not fraudulently installed, that means we are indeed on solid ground.
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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yawn....
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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O.k. as best as I can tell there is some evidence of deleted files but they can not say at this time that the files were deleted maliciously or even on purpose and that if they were deleted there may have been good reason to delete them.
If you want to continue discussing this, then please acknowledge that the unnamed volunteers tweeted out "This is spoliation of evidence!" when they tweeted about deleted files.

Also please acknowledge that the statement had to be walked back - "there is no spoliation of evidence at all."

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I'm not seeing where they are saying that files were never deleted though. Am I missing something?
Are you missing something? Seriously?

I'm not afraid of election audits - I'm afraid of what just happened with the Maricopa County election audit.

The entire point of the deleted files was that it was claimed by unnamed and unmonitored audit volunteers on an official channel as proof that the Maricopa County Election Board was hiding something. Not only did this get out unvetted, the Arizona Senate President sent a rather scathing letter to the chairman of Maricopa County Election Board based on this unvetted claim, requesting his attendance before the Arizona Senate so that he might explain his board's supposed malfeasance.

And the claim of malfeasance had to be walked back, giving proof to the chaotic, unprofessional nature of this audit.

You ever hear that you only get one chance to make a good first impression? Cyber Ninjas just crapped the bed with their first impression. That taints their entire effort, if not kills its authenticity entirely, and sheds doubt on subsequent efforts by the Trump allied politicians to call for new audits.

Are you missing something?

Yes, bigly.
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