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View Poll Results: Are electric vehicles the wave of the future?
Yes 158 49.69%
No 160 50.31%
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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In the end it will come down to profitability and electric motors are proving to be easier/cheaper for manufacturers to produce and easier for businesses that operate fleets. Its similar to why taxi companies ran yellow cabs in NYC or why police and taxis ran Crown Vics nationwide- simpler vehicles with easy swaps.

I'm sure gas engines will remain in specific capacities like mining or vehicles used in remote areas. But those of us simply tooling around town or pulling a daily commute will likely switch over in the next 15 years.
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Old 06-01-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Not for what little power i use. I never said anything about nukes duke. They would cost way too much to build so they are out. My math always adds up pup.
You responded to a discussion about nuclear power... The context was solar panels vs nuclear. Perhaps you should follow the thread you are responding to.

Your math doesn't add up at all. If you just consider your savings in monthly payments, alone, it comes up under 30 years....
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Old 06-01-2021, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Do you think we will see electric vehicles become the majority of vehicles on the road in the next 20 years or so?
Yes, but not in 20 years. Before electric cars become a majority, they must be affordable, which means car manufacturers must develop an inexpensive (relatively) and reliable power system. Spent batteries must be able to be rebuilt/reclaimed, or recycled, so that technology must be developed. Charging systems must be available in enough locations to make using electric vehicles feasible - and how will a public charging system be priced?

Etc. It will take more than 20 years.
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:43 PM
 
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Going full electric is about as brilliant as the decision to go grid based in our power structure.
Not gonna happen over nite dwight.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:45 PM
 
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You responded to a discussion about nuclear power... The context was solar panels vs nuclear. Perhaps you should follow the thread you are responding to.

Your math doesn't add up at all. If you just consider your savings in monthly payments, alone, it comes up under 30 years....
I never typed anything about nukes duke and i am not going solar so you can forget that also. My time is about up so not blowing money on something that won't do me any good.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:47 PM
 
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Yes, but not in 20 years. Before electric cars become a majority, they must be affordable, which means car manufacturers must develop an inexpensive (relatively) and reliable power system. Spent batteries must be able to be rebuilt/reclaimed, or recycled, so that technology must be developed. Charging systems must be available in enough locations to make using electric vehicles feasible - and how will a public charging system be priced?

Etc. It will take more than 20 years.
EV's are cheap now dee. Get a new Bolt for 26k jay.
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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It's just a matter of time.
Eventually it will become evident even to the lowest of low-brows that petroleum will soon be far too valuable to just burn up in IC motors.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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It's just a matter of time.
Eventually it will become evident even to the lowest of low-brows that petroleum will soon be far too valuable to just burn up in IC motors.
THAT is what I suspect is the REAL REASON for the sudden initiative to 'ban' the infernal combustion engine.
"Peak Oil" advocates were dismissed when shale oil and fracking came on line in the 2000s. But those methods rely on EXPENSIVE petroleum to support the increased costs incurred. Not to mention, the ecological devastation wreaked by such processes. Ironically, when the price of oil dropped, so did the profitability of shale oil extraction.
Now, our children's children are faced with the consequences of our actions.
Do we "burn, baby, burn" up all the cheap and plentiful oil, leaving expensive and scarce oil for our descendants?
Or do we grit our teeth, kick out the oil/auto/pavement hegemony and GET BACK ON TRACK (railroads, etc)?
It's a matter of fact and physical law, that a steel wheel on steel rail vehicle uses 95% less fuel than a pneumatic tire on pavement vehicle.
If 80-90% of all transportation in the USA was shifted to rail (heavy, freight, high speed passenger, subways, streetcars, funiculars, monorails, etc), the resulting DROP in oil consumption would be significant. In fact, it would be far below current production levels.
And electric traction rail is far more efficient that electric battery powered cars, because of the coefficient of rolling resistance.... won't drag down the power grid.
A single track has the carrying capacity equivalent to 9 lanes of superhighway. A four track urban subway system, like NYC has, is equivalent to a 36 lane superhighway mesh.
The fact that population keeps expanding underscores the necessity to get away from wasteful automobiles, trucks and buses - as shown by gridlock in every major urban center.

The bottom line - a culture that spends more to do less will be superseded by the culture that spends less to do more. It would be wise to mimic the Swiss and their robust network of electric rail supported by other modes (for short trips). Even the Chinese are pouring resources into their rail network, especially high speed trunks into the hinterlands.
Unfortunately, America has been hostage of the hegemony since the 1920s.
"What's good for GM is good for America..."
NOT ANY MORE...
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Nobody is banning the internal combustion engine...The free market will win.
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