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Old 05-19-2021, 06:29 AM
 
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The truth is that Zionists want all the land occupied by Palestinians and want them all dead.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:32 AM
 
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The truth is that Zionists want all the land occupied by Palestinians and want them all dead.
....above is an example of a liberal who hates Jews to such an extent, and for the reasons I described above, who advances an out-and-out lie about wanting all Palestinians dead, and wanting all the land, when in fact it is the opposite: The Hamas terrorists want all Jews dead, and Israel off the map; and it is Israel who agreed to a peace deal, and cede land, if Hamas would only agree to that Israel has a right to exist.

Watch as this thread unfolds. The liberals who join in will demonstrate their anti-Israel views, based on false propaganda put out by Hamas terrorists. The conservatives will say that a country has a right to defend itself against terrorists who would seek to destroy it.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The truth is that Zionists want all the land occupied by Palestinians and want them all dead.
Nope. The truth is that Palestinians want all the land of Israel and want all the Jewish people dead. They have actively stated that. Palestinian leadership has long refused a "two-state" solution and has stated that they will settle for nothing less than the destruction and elimination of Israel. As has their primary supporter-Iran.

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Old 05-19-2021, 06:39 AM
 
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Nope. The truth is that Palestinians want all the land of Israel and want all the Jewish people dead. They have actively stated that. Palestinian leadership has long refused a "two-state" solution and has stated that they will settle for nothing less than the destruction and elimination of Israel. As had their primary supporter-Iran.
Yup. That liberal just proved the premise of your thread, didn't he?
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Nope. The truth is that Palestinians want all the land of Israel and want all the Jewish people dead. They have actively stated that. Palestinian leadership has long refused a "two-state" solution and has stated that they will settle for nothing less than the destruction and elimination of Israel. As had their primary supporter-Iran.
Israel is the one who rejects all the proposals because it would require the Palestinians to disarm which they know will never happen.

Likud says all of Israel (including Jordan) belongs to the Jews. That is why the settlements are removing palestinians.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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And why is it that Republicans who are so against any kind of government assistance to the citizens of this country are fine with sending $3.7 billion of taxpayer money to fund the Israeli military while they break almost every UN backed resolution?
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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Also, as an aside, I should mention that the anti-Israel fervor is so rampant among Democrats that I've met Jews who have joined Chabad (and Orthodox sect that supports Israel) after being made to feel unwelcome by their pro-Muslim liberal synagogues.

It's a crying shame.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:49 AM
 
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The truth is that Zionists want all the land occupied by Palestinians and want them all dead.

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. You do know there was a plan for two states way back in 1947. One for Jews and one for muslims. Acutally two for muslims as they also got Jordan but that's another point.

The Jews accepted the plan as they were willing to go with a two state solution. Guess who declined the offer and invaded while shouting "drive them into the sea"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit..._for_Palestine

And let's not even bring up camp David.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Northeast
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I think it's because at the moment, the perception is the "Right Wing" supports Israel. The "Right Wing" are made up of the GOP, and that means many Trump supporters. So that is where the hate starts.

It is funny how the left is standing up for the side that hates the LGBT community, violates women's rights, and many other horrible things. It really shows how hate filled they, themselves are.
Bingo! It's mostly partisan just like you said.

Liberals just want to be the opposing team to Republicans/Evangelicals and support Palestine/Hamas based on that principle.

Plus, it gives them a "White savior" complex to save "Brown" Palestinians from getting "oppressed" by "White" Israelis.

And this is coming from someone who's not a Zionist or at least a full blown one. I simply regard Israel as the "lesser evil" and better ally in the situation.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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I think it's because at the moment, the perception is the "Right Wing" supports Israel. The "Right Wing" are made up of the GOP, and that means many Trump supporters. So that is where the hate starts.
I sure hope this is not the reason.

There is a reason why the WORLD, generally speaking, support Israel.

Support for the only stable democracy in the Middle East, the world’s number one supporter of humanitarian aid per capita around the globe, the tiny start up nation at the forefront of every medical or technological breakthrough that positively impacts our species, the front line in the global war against religious extremism… all of these things go beyond partisan politics, break through religious, ethnic and national barriers, cut through socioeconomic lines and artificial constructs of age, geography, culture or sexual orientation.

I happened to be a Christian, conservative, and Republican, I know SOME evangelical Christians believe that the Jews have to return to Israel before the end times begin, or something like that. However, my support for Israel has nothing to do with faith or religion. I also know that many Jewish people in America vote for Democrats. This doesn't change my opinions about Israel because I know American Jewish people are Americans, Like any other American, they vote in accord with a set of values that they aspire to live by and to assert in the world.

Last but not least, for all of you (general term) that say being anti-Israel isn’t the same as being anti-Jewish, you’re either incredibly naive, deliberately lying, or woefully uninformed. Questioning an Israeli policy is one thing. Even that, as long as you maintain the same standard for all other nations, you’re fine. It is reasonable, again, Israel makes mistakes and it is reasonable to call them out on those mistakes. Omar and others are actively antisemitic and the Democrats insincere rebuke of the antisemitism is proof of their complicity not evidence of this.

Also, keep in mind. When people were saying, “Black Lives Matter,” and others responded, “All Lives Matter,” the Democrats condemned this as racist. When they had an opportunity to say we don’t support antisemitism in our ranks, they watered it down to include everyone and anyone. Their hypocrisy knows no limits.

if you specifically look at things that Omar has said, she has specifically attacked Jews, not Israel or Israeli policies. She has said that US support for Israel has been bought and paid for with Jewish money. That is the kind of conspiratorial antisemitic garbage that gets Jews killed.
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