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Old 05-25-2021, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It really isn’t about Floyd himself per say. It’s the fact he was the final straw for an issue that many feel needed to be changed. The man Was less than a Boy Scout but he didn’t deserve to die in the street that way. Nobody does, it’s not the polices decision as to who lives or dies.

Floyd was a petty criminal at times in his life, but not really an “evil” man. He didn’t deserve what happened to him. That’s the point OP.
Actually, deadly force is part of any Law Enforcement Officer's job description, to take a life, to make a decision to save others, save yourself and other examples. The fact you called Floyd's crimes petty shows either you are ignorant or delusional. Putting a knife to a pregnant woman's stomach, that's petty?

 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:37 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Default Why Is George Floyd Being Treated As A Martyr?

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He had a criminal history, was high on an illicit drug , failed to comply with police and was murdered by a Pig.
Why the martyrdom?
You are trying to look like it from a honest and neutral viewpoint, that a person can be nothing to write home about but still be a victim of police brutality.

The problem is that almost all our politicians and media personalities are afraid to be so honest.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:41 PM
 
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I agree that the man George Floyd should not be lionized. He, himself, is actually irrelevant to the issue. It's not as though he were Martin Luther King or Malcolm X.

But the incidents of how he was handled by police are issues that are relevant regardless of the man himself, not special because there was something special about George Floyd.
Spot on.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Actually, deadly force is part of any Law Enforcement Officer's job description, to take a life, to make a decision to save others, save yourself and other examples. The fact you called Floyd's crimes petty shows either you are ignorant or delusional. Putting a knife to a pregnant woman's stomach, that's petty?
Yes at one point, but when he was arrested for the counterfeit bills, was he a threat to police or others? When a person is arrested, it is just for that crime and not for their past.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:45 PM
 
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Actually, deadly force is part of any Law Enforcement Officer's job description, to take a life, to make a decision to save others, save yourself and other examples.
I have no issue with a cop shooting or killing someone in the act of harming either the cops, bystanders, or trying to flee with a weapon, or weaponizing a vehicle to try to kill cops or others.

The Floyd arrest did not have any such actions going on. The stop itself was lawful, the guy was subdued, and no threat at that moment to anyone else. Chauvin was properly tried for his crime as well. I have no issue with that, other than the lack of change of venue and sequestering was moronic.

At the same time, Floyd's death does not make him a martyr. He should have been booked, indicted, tried, and assuming found guilty, punished.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes at one point, but when he was arrested for the counterfeit bills, was he a threat to police or others? When a person is arrested, it is just for that crime and not for their past.
We are speaking about him post-humuously. That is why I look at the totality of the circumstances.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 05-26-2021 at 07:57 AM.. Reason: off topic
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:47 PM
 
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Floyd was a petty criminal at times in his life, but not really an “evil” man.

He was part of a home invasion, and held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly. That's no "petty" crime. That's evil.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:50 PM
 
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was murdered by a Pig.
I would have added to your reputation until I got to that phrase. He was not murdered and using the word you used shows us all what we need to know.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:51 PM
 
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Coming to you soon: The National George Floyd Memorial Holiday.
 
Old 05-25-2021, 07:52 PM
 
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I have no issue with a cop shooting or killing someone in the act of harming either the cops, bystanders, or trying to flee with a weapon, or weaponizing a vehicle to try to kill cops or others.

The Floyd arrest did not have any such actions going on. The stop itself was lawful, the guy was subdued, and no threat at that moment to anyone else. Chauvin was properly tried for his crime as well. I have no issue with that, other than the lack of change of venue and sequestering was moronic.

At the same time, Floyd's death does not make him a martyr. He should have been booked, indicted, tried, and assuming found guilty, punished.

Having well beyond a lethal amount of fentanyl plus other drugs in his system should have been reasonable doubt. People on the jury aware of the riots is reasonable doubt.
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