Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,859,151 times
Reputation: 10371

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
That is a blanket statement, not all regulation is the same.

Would you be for regulation that only targets big companies?
That's not regulation. That is crony capitalism
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,859,151 times
Reputation: 10371
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
It is against common sense. Regulation that has safety and environmental standards means higher quality.

There are different types of regulations, the aforementioned and regulation that targets large companies.

Because again, the big fish will always eat the little fish.
At what cost?

How did those government regulations work out for the housing industry in 2007?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:40 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
43,080 posts, read 18,252,401 times
Reputation: 34961
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Regulation raises costs. Lowering costs causes more to enter that filed.
Competition is good. It lowers cost and raises quality. Plus it gives we the people more options.

This is all basic. How in the world do you not know this?
Years of corporate/government telling the public that high regulations will keep them "safe".
Call it propaganda, brain washing, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,429,771 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Not true. Are you ignoring all the food recalls put out DAILY ?

Big companies are big proponents of complex, expensive regulations because it prevents any competition.
When there is no competition then they can charge what they want, lower their standards, etc.

But government and companies have convinced so many people that without regulations you will die in one form or another.

Here..take a gander.....arsenic in baby food, salmonella in pet food, listeria in organic mushrooms, etc.
So much for your "safety and higher quality".


https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-m...-safety-alerts
The law can be drawn up in different ways. If you have a problem then you should want BETTER regulations, not LESS regulations.

Do you think if there were no standards things would be better?

Anyway, none of this matters, because these are not regulations that target big business. There are regulations that exist for the distinct purpose of promoting competition.

Without them there would be no competition because big fish eat little fish.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:48 AM
 
8,886 posts, read 4,578,846 times
Reputation: 16242
"the big fish always eat the little fish"

Nope. Not true in nature, and certainly not true in business. All the current "big 5" tech companies were little fish that ate the big fish, and this has all happened in my lifetime. They are now the big fish, and in time will get out flanked by some as yet unknown new and improved little fish.

It's called competition.

The end.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,429,771 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Years of corporate/government telling the public that high regulations will keep them "safe".
Call it propaganda, brain washing, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
At what cost?

How did those government regulations work out for the housing industry in 2007?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
That's not regulation. That is crony capitalism
Again, deregulation will not lead to competition.

Housing is a public good that was opened to speculation. That created more businesses but it wasn't good for anyone.

So once more I will ask, how does deregulation lead to competition if big fish eat little fish?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,429,771 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckeye77 View Post
"the big fish always eat the little fish"

Nope. Not true in nature, and certainly not true in business. All the current "big 5" tech companies were little fish that ate the big fish, and this has all happened in my lifetime. They are now the big fish, and in time will get out flanked by some as yet unknown new and improved little fish.

It's called competition.

The end.
No.

That is one giant replacing another.

Like Rome replacing Carthage, the Ottomans replacing the Byzantine, Britain replacing Spain.

That is not competition, that is evolution. Competition would be like having minor feudal states all warring against each other with no real balance of power.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:53 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
43,080 posts, read 18,252,401 times
Reputation: 34961
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
The law can be drawn up in different ways. If you have a problem then you should want BETTER regulations, not LESS regulations.

Do you think if there were no standards things would be better?

Anyway, none of this matters, because these are not regulations that target big business. There are regulations that exist for the distinct purpose of promoting competition.

Without them there would be no competition because big fish eat little fish.
So your answer to high regulations failing is even more layers on top of that ?

Stop and think a minute here. Maybe it's not the regulations but monopolies that are safely operating at the top with complex regulations preventing new competition from entering the field.

You cannot be convinced otherwise and that is quite obvious as you dismiss every post that disagrees with you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
37,949 posts, read 17,859,151 times
Reputation: 10371
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Again, deregulation will not lead to competition.
Again it does and you have no proof otherwise or you would have provided it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
Housing is a public good that was opened to speculation. That created more businesses but it wasn't good for anyone.
Housing went under because government regulated it and forced lenders to lend to people who were a bad risk.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterfall8324 View Post
So once more I will ask, how does deregulation lead to competition if big fish eat little fish?
This doesn't happen much and you have no proof. Otherwise you would have provided some. The big companies write the deregulation laws, which increase costs, which squeezes out the little guy, and hinders startups.

this is all basic.

Still waiting for you to provide proof.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-14-2021, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
15,507 posts, read 6,429,771 times
Reputation: 4831
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Again it does and you have no proof otherwise or you would have provided it.

Housing went under because government regulated it and forced lenders to lend to people who were a bad risk.

This doesn't happen much and you have no proof. Otherwise you would have provided some. The big companies write the deregulation laws, which increase costs, which squeezes out the little guy, and hinders startups.

this is all basic.

Still waiting for you to provide proof.
It is common sense, the housing market is entirely different because it is a public good (shelter).

The example you used is actual deregulatory in spirit because more people are included into the commercial lending market and need play by the same rules.

Now tell me why deregulation leads to more competition? When industries were deregulated they consolidated.

Forget about the problems with bad regulations, tell me why a completely free market will lead to a healthy ecosphere of small companies if large companies can destroy them with impunity.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top