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Old 06-22-2021, 02:04 PM
 
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Depends on where one lives. In the US, we have areas where people are against taking the vaccine. Those areas are having surges. If everyone was vaccinated, the virus would not spread and multiply. It could go away but, right now, it is not due to the resistance from certain people.

Data to support that?
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Old 06-22-2021, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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is it just because the government doesn't want to admit the reality of covid - that the only people at real risk are those very old and/or very sick?

forcing healthy young people to get the covid is beyond insanity. Your chance of dying from covid as a healthy young person is 1 in infinity

the vaccine is much more dangerous to healthy young people than covid is. Why won't anybody admit this?

Dying is easy.....it is having to live after this thing has hit you with its worse without killing you.
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Old 06-22-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Schools and colleges are where young people from a whole lot of families (and other groups) meet. Family members of the young people in school and college may be immuno-compromised or have other health issues. And there's the benefit to not having COVID spread in schools - the cross-section of society that would be put at risk is larger than just the student body.

This of course requires an acceptance of the idea that other people can be, y'know, actual persons that we should care about.
Where were all of these people that have other health issues and are immune-compromised before COVID?
Were they just hanging out in their house afraid to step outside because someone they pass might have some disease that their system hasn't accounted for and couldn't handle? Of course not, so why has this group been hijacked into what is in effect a huge "guilt trip".

It's all about risk vs. benefit. If someone wants to get the vaccine there is nothing stopping them. But there are issues that are out there for a vaccine that is still only approved for Emergency Use by the FDA, even though you had people in March and April who said this was so successful that it would be approved by now. For a virus that has over a 98% survivability rate overall and people under 25 only accounted for about 5% of the total deaths.

There are schools that are allowing unvaccinated students to attend if they get tested regularly. While still probably a huge overreach, at least they are giving the kids an option. What do you do with a school that tells a senior who is 1 semester from graduating that if they don't get vaccinated they can't attend classes and won't graduate after 3 1/2 years of hard work? They have a choice..be forced to get vaccinated or lose a good portion of their college education. What if that kid was one of the young people that have had severe issues? Do you tell them...thanks for getting vaccinated?
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Old 06-22-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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Long term effects of these type of vaccines are still unknown, and anecdotally I know of a perfectly healthy 18 year old who had to be revived immediately after taking the vaccine, and has been suffering long term heart inflammation since she took it. No way in hell my teenagers are taking the vaccine, and I myself am vaccinated.
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Old 06-22-2021, 02:38 PM
 
Location: NY
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Something like 500 colleges are coercing their students to get a vaccine that only has an EUA, that is still being investigated for heart problems, and has thousands of reports of deaths and serous issues. Those reports haven't been fully investigated as of yet. And the kids are being mandated. No, I can't explain that other than medical tyranny. My daughter's university had a vaccine mandate.

Anyone who wants the vaccine can get it. The faculty and staff can get vaccinated. The vaccine protects them, so no one should be mandated. Those who are immunocompromised can be given other accommodations for their safety.

The universities should be sued for harm that results from vaccine injury. If a kid ends up with permanent heart damage because they were coerced into taking the shots, the university should compensate for the expenses and damages.
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Old 06-22-2021, 02:44 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I would recommend any college kids afraid of the vaccine to drop out of college. It's just a waste of money at that point.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:15 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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How is this insanity? It seems the opposite. Yes it shows an abundance of caution, perhaps an overabundance. But it's pure hyperbole to label it insanity. A vaccinated student body allows everybody to attend class in person; a more optimal situation for instruction.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:18 PM
 
Location: NY
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I would recommend any college kids afraid of the vaccine to drop out of college. It's just a waste of money at that point.
So people with a prior vaccine injury who are afraid of getting another one...they are not entitled to an education? What strange times we are living in where people dictate how another should feel about what gets injected into their body. Especially when there is zero data on long term consequences, and these are young people.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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is it just because the government doesn't want to admit the reality of covid - that the only people at real risk are those very old and/or very sick?


forcing healthy young people to get the covid is beyond insanity. Your chance of dying from covid as a healthy young person is 1 in infinity


the vaccine is much more dangerous to healthy young people than covid is. Why won't anybody admit this?



First the vaccine is not more dangerious than COVID to young people.


More important is young people still get infected and infected someone else who will get severe disease or die. Not everyone can get vaccinated (cancer patients for example) and not everyone generates a strong immune response.
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Old 06-22-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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So people with a prior vaccine injury who are afraid of getting another one...they are not entitled to an education? What strange times we are living in where people dictate how another should feel about what gets injected into their body. Especially when there is zero data on long term consequences, and these are young people.

Scare tactics based on nothing.
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