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Nobody is arguing that the climate has not always changed. Further, I opened the link but there is no argument. Pictures that may or may not be accurate. How does the link support your statement?
I just want us to do this intelligently, not just allow the partisan wrecking ball called government, to push us into policies and mandates that end up causing more harm than good.
The "just hurry up and do something" left have a history of rushing headlong into policies and government mandates that were not well thought out, and ended up hurting instead of helping. Remember NTBE as a gasoline additive to reduce pollution? They forced its use in our cars, planes, trucks, etc..., and it ended up poisoning us.
The same people want us to close fossil fuel power plants, have banned nuclear power, and think wind and solar will supply all our needs. Then they want to force all electric vehicles on us, which will greatly increase mining operations and rape the land for the planet's finite precious metals. We will flood new landfills, and probably the ocean, with used up batteries and used up green energy products with more toxic materials.
So many uninformed people in this forum who nevertheless think they know something and spout the most idiotic assertions! Thankfully, this forum is not representative of the country since wackos tend to congregate here, apparently being comforted by seeing others who are just as idiotic and nonsensical as they are. A real hotbed of hotheads!
This sub forum is a place for lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists to congregate and bathe in their BS.
This sub forum is a place for lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists to congregate and bathe in their BS.
Sadly, I find this forum to be representative of elder conservatives. Right-wing media has fried their brains.
It is beyond dismaying that the people so against measures to protect the climate and environment are precisely the people who won't live to suffer the consequences of inaction. They won't be forgotten.
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It is beyond dismaying that the people so against measures to protect the climate and environment are precisely the people who won't live to suffer the consequences of inaction.
Explain how raising the federal minimum wage to $15/hour protects the climate and the environment.
We'll wait....
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Sadly, I find this forum to be representative of elder conservatives. Right-wing media has fried their brains.
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So many uninformed people in this forum who nevertheless think they know something and spout the most idiotic assertions! Thankfully, this forum is not representative of the country since wackos tend to congregate here, apparently being comforted by seeing others who are just as idiotic and nonsensical as they are. A real hotbed of hotheads!
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This sub forum is a place for lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists to congregate and bathe in their BS.
Let's examine that in greater detail:
Palaeo data suggest that Greenland must have been largely ice free during Marine Isotope Stage 11 (MIS-11). The globally averaged MIS-11 sea level is estimated to have reached between 6–13 m above that of today.
“Even though the warm Eemian period was a period when the oceans were four to eight meters higher than today, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was only a few hundred meters lower than the current level, which indicates that the contribution from the Greenland ice sheet was less than half the total sea-level rise during that period,†says Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, and leader of the NEEM-project.
What I'm hearing is that Nature magazine -- an ardent support of man-made global warming -- and the Danish government are "elder conservatives whose brains have been fried by Right-wing media and who are uninformed are lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists.
State your case why you believe Nature magazine and the Danish government:
1) have had their brains fried by Right-wing media
2) are "uninformed"
3) are lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists.
In the alternative, address the peer-reviewed science from the links above and explain:
1) why this Inter-Glacial Period is colder than all 8 previously recorded Inter-Glacial Periods
2) why sea levels are lower in this Inter-Glacial Period than all 8 previously recorded Inter-Glacial Periods.
Let's see who the real "science deniers" are.
Finally, in the alternative, explain why you fear having to address real science.
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CO2 Makes Up Just 0.04% of Earth's Atmosphere. Here's Why Its Impact Is So Massive.
Then why wasn't it's impact "massive" when CO2 made up 26% of the Earth's atmosphere?
If China doesn't believe in climate change, then explain this.
Chinese investment in clean energy is the highest worldwide. In 2019, China pumped some 83.4 billion U.S. dollars into clean energy research and development.
If China believes in human caused climate change, then explain this.
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Including decommissions, China's coal-fired fleet capacity rose by a net 29.8 GW in 2020, even as the rest of the world made cuts of 17.2 GW, according to research released on Wednesday by Global Energy Monitor (GEM), a U.S. think tank, and the Helsinki-based Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA).
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China approved the construction of a further 36.9 GW of coal-fired capacity last year, three times more than a year earlier, bringing the total under construction to 88.1 GW. It now has 247 GW of coal power under development, enough to supply the whole of Germany.
So many uninformed people in this forum who nevertheless think they know something and spout the most idiotic assertions! Thankfully, this forum is not representative of the country since wackos tend to congregate here, apparently being comforted by seeing others who are just as idiotic and nonsensical as they are. A real hotbed of hotheads!
Lots of hot heads fred. When you all want facts jacks come to me as i know better than anyone that not much time is left.
And you want to play Henny Penny, pretend human technology will not change over the next 140 years? Even now the carbon footprint of the US is dropping. People do see the need to be more resourceful and efficient, and to find ways to pollute less.
At least in the US we are progressing, India and China may be a different matter. The Communist Chinese government does have a plan for the future; world domination. I doubt their plan includes a concern for the climate, or in reducing pollution.
We can't even get to the moon let alone another star system. We can't do nothing to change what is to come. Not like we can go to another planet janet and start over. There are millions of planets waiting for us and no way to lick the time speed thing without a jump drive
This sub forum is a place for lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists to congregate and bathe in their BS.
Lots of BS jess. Like to see less. But we have a few posters with their head stuck in the sand man and think it is a HOAX folks. But this is just a normal warming over 1500 years we have seen before and will again. Just no one has lived to see such a rapid warm up that is coming since records have only been kept since the 1800's.
This sub forum is a place for lunatics, nutters and conspiracy theorists to congregate and bathe in their BS.
So so true. I joined C-D many years ago and there used to be good discussions. Now it's just ignorant, or at least naive, easily mislead people repeating what they hear on fringe websites. Critical thinking has disappeared completely.
And this post will probably be deleted....
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