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Old 07-06-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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I'll just say it.

In excellent schools, the european descent parents are getting a little antsy about all this. It's true, by and large, Asians (and that includes Asians that are Indians) rise to the top of the academic class and take the top 10 graduate positions, sweeping up the scholarships and plumb college admissions.

Even the most inclusive of us are quietly winking at each other, woohoo, this year we can pronounce the salutatorian's name!

Bottom line, we don't want our kids hitting the books 100% of the time. We want our kids playing basketball, baseball, trumpet, going to the prom, hanging out at the lake or beach, etc. We don't want the culture that they've embraced, which is study study study and then get up early and meet in the high school commons to go over any questions you might still have with each other before the test.

We don't want that, and we've found that behavior doesn't add to creativity or leadership skills. That doesn't add to what we are, that makes us great, which is full steam ahead hold my beer let's see if this works.

B students rule the world, and always have, and likely always will but they won't obviously be the highest scorers on tests. And in the future, it's B students who have created the most innovative new businesses, or chair the board of directors, or run the yacht club.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know. How do you know these brilliant students don’t have a lot of interests outside of school work? That’s sounds like nothing but jealousy to me.
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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Democrats are once again the party of racism. This time meritocracy must die in the name of equity.
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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You’re making a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know. How do you know these brilliant students don’t have a lot of interests outside of school work? That’s sounds like nothing but jealousy to me.
I see a lot of racist Democrats justify their racism against Asians in school by saying that Asians are quiet and etc.

Fact is that Asians have to go way above and beyond in extracurricular activities, because they know racists want to discriminate against them due to their hard work towards academic achievement.
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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I'll just say it.

In excellent schools, the european descent parents are getting a little antsy about all this. It's true, by and large, Asians (and that includes Asians that are Indians) rise to the top of the academic class and take the top 10 graduate positions, sweeping up the scholarships and plumb college admissions.

Even the most inclusive of us are quietly winking at each other, woohoo, this year we can pronounce the salutatorian's name!

Bottom line, we don't want our kids hitting the books 100% of the time. We want our kids playing basketball, baseball, trumpet, going to the prom, hanging out at the lake or beach, etc. We don't want the culture that they've embraced, which is study study study and then get up early and meet in the high school commons to go over any questions you might still have with each other before the test.

We don't want that, and we've found that behavior doesn't add to creativity or leadership skills. That doesn't add to what we are, that makes us great, which is full steam ahead hold my beer let's see if this works.

B students rule the world, and always have, and likely always will but they won't obviously be the highest scorers on tests. And in the future, it's B students who have created the most innovative new businesses, or chair the board of directors, or run the yacht club.
So black and Hispanic people rule the world?
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:03 AM
 
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Every action they do legal or otherwise is to transfer power. All they see is differences and they think differences are what cause conflicts. If there are no differences we can all focus on peace, love, happiness, fairies, candy canes, golden streets, “free love” starting at the age of 2.

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Old 07-06-2021, 08:04 AM
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You’re making a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know. How do you know these brilliant students don’t have a lot of interests outside of school work? That’s sounds like nothing but jealousy to me.
There is a little envy, that's true.

And that's what you're seeing in this article. People in the community who are watching all the awards go to a specific demographic, I'll admit that.

BUT. I served on scholarship committees, and know the students. I'm not talking about people I "don't know". I'm talking about people I DO know.

And awarding students for things like leadership and innovative creativity instead of test taking ability makes for a more diverse student group. Because ability to correctly spit back information given isn't all that makes for a successful adult.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:07 AM
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So black and Hispanic people rule the world?
Do black and hispanic people make up the bulk of B students in the US traditionally?

Um, no. If you look at the Bell Curve, no.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:09 AM
 
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There is a little envy, that's true.

And that's what you're seeing in this article. People in the community who are watching all the awards go to a specific demographic, I'll admit that.

BUT. I served on scholarship committees, and know the students. I'm not talking about people I "don't know". I'm talking about people I DO know.

And awarding students for things like leadership and innovative creativity instead of test taking ability makes for a more diverse student group. Because ability to correctly spit back information given isn't all that makes for a successful adult.
Maybe someone should have kept the Asian parents in the loop in these rule changes? Like they they probably thought that excelling in academics was the requirement for higher education scholarships. Not really fair to them to move the goal posts around.

I get what you’re saying. I’m not an educator but I’ve had some experience with coaching sports teams and helping the coach. Diversity of skills is important.

I still think this purging students of a certain ethnicity is wrong but you’ve at least helped me understand the other side a little.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Do black and hispanic people make up the bulk of B students in the US traditionally?

Um, no. If you look at the Bell Curve, no.
Who does?
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:13 AM
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Who does?
Traditionally in the US, white males were the biggest demographic of the solid B earners.

That may have changed in the last generation, with other changes like grade inflation, schools with no homework mandates, the ability to retest for higher grades, barring test grades lower than a 50, etc.

So I don't know for sure this generation. In the last many generations of public schools, the B students came out on top in life, as a demographic.

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