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Old 07-11-2021, 06:27 AM
 
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Unfortunate, happening all over the country. Many unscrupulous people will take advantage of these sorts of things.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/landlord-...141357575.html

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All told, Mangal — who has captured many of her tenants’ actions on surveillance video — has not only lost sleep from the tensions inside her two-story home but also $36,600 in rental income. “It’s been really horrendous,” she said. “What am I supposed to do — live like this?”

In years past, Mangal, 31, could have taken her tenants to housing court and sought to evict them. But during the pandemic, the federal government and many states, including New York, imposed eviction moratoriums to protect renters who had lost their income. The moratoriums have been widely praised by housing advocates for preventing millions of people from becoming homeless.
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:49 AM
 
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This is what gets lost. The small landlord. And in 'normal' times these tenants would've been gone or paid up much sooner. These pos renters will make it tough on all future renters.

Now has a rent collection suit in a back log of 59,000 eviction cases. Oh goody.
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:16 AM
 
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She could have chosen NOT to renew their lease and then evict for staying past lease. This type of eviction IS allowed under the federal laws.

Normally a tenant has a 12 month lease.

She could have told them she's not going to renew the lease once the 12 months was over, and told them to move at the end of the lease. Evict them for staying past the lease term. This type of eviction is allowed during the pandemic. The federal pandemic eviction rule is ONLY for non-payment of rent. The landlord was free to allow the lease to expire and then evict tenants if they stayed past their lease. Landlords do this all the time.

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Old 07-11-2021, 07:49 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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She could have chosen NOT to renew their lease and then evict for staying past lease. This type of eviction IS allowed under the federal laws.

months. Normally a tenant has a 12 month lease.

She could have told them she's not going to renew the lease once the 12 months was over, and told them to move at the end of the lease. Evict them for staying past the lease term. This type of eviction is allowed during the pandemic. The federal pandemic eviction rule is ONLY for non-payment of rent. The landlord was free to allow the lease to expire and then evict tenants if they stayed past their lease. Landlords do this all the time.
Evicting tenets because of an expired lease is a loophole that is left up to the judges to decide on in eviction cases.

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Some landlords in Pennsylvania are successfully short-circuiting the CDC order. Instead of seeking an eviction because a tenant hasn’t paid rent — which is not allowed — landlords ask instead to remove the tenant because their lease has expired or been terminated.

The Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts says it’s up to judges to decipher the ambiguities in the federal order. But the limited guidance it has issued says the order only prohibits evictions for non-payment of rent.

“In practice, it creates a loophole that allows landlords to get around the reach of the CDC order,” said Bob Damewood, a staff attorney at Regional Housing Legal Services in Pittsburgh. “It means a lot of tenants who should be covered by the CDC order aren’t.”
https://www.spotlightpa.org/news/202...nters-despair/


"Temporary Halt in Residential Evictions To Prevent the Further Spread of COVID-19"
https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-covid-19#p-21
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Unfortunate, happening all over the country. Many unscrupulous people will take advantage of these sorts of things.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/landlord-...141357575.html
I hope all landlords can sue for back rent and put liens and wage garnishments for all these deadbeats.
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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I hope all landlords can sue for back rent and put liens and wage garnishments for all these deadbeats.

There is a huge amount of money from the COVID bills that has not been spent to pay for this.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:03 AM
 
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As a landlord, she can also make their stay VERY uncomfortable if she decided to do so!!


She may not be able to evict them, but there is a number of things she could do, that would pretty much result in the tenants willingly leaving... Im not sure why more landlords arent doing this.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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As a landlord, she can also make their stay VERY uncomfortable if she decided to do so!!


She may not be able to evict them, but there is a number of things she could do, that would pretty much result in the tenants willingly leaving... Im not sure why more landlords arent doing this.
Laws vary greatly and in those urban areas in certain parts of the country they no doubt have extremely strict laws about "harrassing renters".
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Old 07-11-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Unfortunate, happening all over the country. Many unscrupulous people will take advantage of these sorts of things.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/landlord-...141357575.html
Time to remodel!
Pull a permit from the city if required.
Crowbar, nail puller and hammer....
Remove the exterior and interior doors.
Remove all the windows.
Leave.

Wait 2 weeks and board it up.

Wait a month, and call a roll-off dumpster.
Unboard the doors and windows, throw everything left in the dumpster, repair and repaint, being very selective in your next tenant.
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Old 07-11-2021, 09:05 AM
 
Location: NYC
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As a landlord, she can also make their stay VERY uncomfortable if she decided to do so!!


She may not be able to evict them, but there is a number of things she could do, that would pretty much result in the tenants willingly leaving... Im not sure why more landlords arent doing this.
lol yea and that will go over real well.
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