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The cities that emit the most greenhouse gases included Handan, Suzhou, Dalian, Beijing and Tianjin in China — but also Tokyo, Japan, and Moscow, Russia.
China’s President Xi Jinping has pledged to cap carbon emissions by 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality by 2060 — part of its commitment to the Paris Agreement.
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At present, China is running a whopping 1,058 coal-fired power plants — equal to more than half of the world’s entire capacity.
In their paper, researchers from the Sun Yat-sen University in China recorded, for the first time, the greenhouse emission levels of 167 cities located across the globe.
Even though cities only cover some two per cent of the Earth’s total surface area, they are major contributors to the climate crisis, the team explained.
1. Handan, China (199.71)
2. Shanghai, China (187.93)
3. Suzhou, China (151.79)
4. Dalian, China (142.51)
5. Beijing, China (132.58)
6. Tianjin, China (125.89)
7. Moscow, Russia (112.53)
8. Wuhan, China (110.86)
9. Qingdao, China (93.56)
10. Chongqing, China (80.58)
11. Wuxi, China (76.88)
12. Urumqi, China (75.32)
13. Guangzhou, China (71.03)
14. Huizhou, China (68.74)
15. Shijiazhuang, China (67.80)
16. Zhengzhou, China (66.16)
17. Tokyo, Japan (66.08)
18. Shengyang, China (64.10)
19. Kaohsiung, China (63.64)
20. Kunming, China (62.96)
20. Shenzhen, China (62.91)
22. Hangzhou, China (61.41)
23. Hong Kong, China (55.90)
24. Yinchuan, China (55.49)
25. Chengdu , China (54.49)
New York is #26 (51.31). San Diego is #41 (35.02). Houston is #44 (33.41). Chicago is #47 (31.48). Los Angeles is #55 (26.55). These are the only U.S. cities in the top 75. Also – look at how large the numbers are for the Chinese cities versus the U.S. cities. I’m kind of salty that no one is dealing with China on this.
At the end of the day, I believe the global warming/climate change efforts are purposely to damage the U.S. economy and benefit China. China is the top carbon emitter, and nobody deals with them. All you have to do is look at the coal industry. It was decimated under the Obama Administration, which is what he said he would do. Now China is producing over half of the world’s coal supply - which is still the most reliable source of energy.
It was another poster who mentioned that these cities often have 10-20 million people and it would be better to measure by carbon emissions per person or GDP per Capita.
Still it's an interesting statistic. They also lead in wind power....
I was quick to see that this story is cherrypicking data to a degree though. We are all interconnected so if China is putting lots of carbon into the atmosphere well we are buying their stuff.... Each person has to ask how much carbon they individually contribute if they care so much in my opinion.
In a way, by sending so many jobs to China, we have succeeded in exporting a large amount of our greenhouse gas emissions. If we did that work here, we would just be polluting in our own backyards, and lefties would not be down with that...
In a way, by sending so many jobs to China, we have succeeded in exporting a large amount of our greenhouse gas emissions. If we did that work here, we would just be polluting in our own backyards, and lefties would not be down with that...
I would rather have people working and keeping busy.
We either get greenhouse emissions from people producing goods... or crime, riots, protests, and government vaccinators going door to door because people don't have enough to do with their life.
I would rather have people working and keeping busy.
We either get greenhouse emissions from people producing goods... or crime, riots, protests, and government vaccinators going door to door because people don't have enough to do with their life.
You could offer jobs to pAntifa people, but you can't force them to work those jobs. Nor could you possibly afford to pay them a living wage off what their noodle arms are capable of producing. You could pay them more than they are capable of producing perhaps, but then you would call it communism, and we would become more like China, which is not something any red blooded American would appreciate.
We offshore our carbon emissions to China, end of story.
Nobody is doing anything here about it, because it’s us who did it. We also talk about the growing China threat when we are the ones who are bankrolling that growth. Don’t waste your time trying to fit this into neat little boxes. That’s globalism for you. Like it and shut up!
It was another poster who mentioned that these cities often have 10-20 million people and it would be better to measure by carbon emissions per person or GDP per Capita.
Still it's an interesting statistic. They also lead in wind power....
I was quick to see that this story is cherrypicking data to a degree though. We are all interconnected so if China is putting lots of carbon into the atmosphere well we are buying their stuff.... Each person has to ask how much carbon they individually contribute if they care so much in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by UrbanQuest
We offshore our carbon emissions to China, end of story.
Nobody is doing anything here about it, because it’s us who did it. We also talk about the growing China threat when we are the ones who are bankrolling that growth. Don’t waste your time trying to fit this into neat little boxes. That’s globalism for you. Like it and shut up!
So it's basically still our fault?
This is nuts.
Do you want to deal w/ China, or just continue wallowing in how terrible America is?
Progressive groups backed by billionaire George Soros and several liberal philanthropies are calling on President Joe Biden to ignore China's human rights record and partner with the Communist regime to fight climate change.
Forty-eight progressive organizations issued the letter to Biden this week, including prominent outfits like CODEPINK, Sunrise Movement, the Union of Concerned Scientists, and ActionAid USA. The groups accuse the White House and Congress of taking an "antagonistic approach" to U.S.-China relations that will serve as a "major barrier" to cooperation on climate change. Several of the groups have taken money from liberal organizations that have funded Chinese government-linked programs.
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The Biden administration has struggled with how to balance confrontation with China over its human rights record while developing dialogue with Beijing on the climate change issue. China is seen as a key partner in the climate change fight due to its carbon emissions, population size, and industrial capacity.
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John Kerry, the administration's climate czar, has faced criticism for saying that he has avoided discussing hot-button issues with his Chinese counterparts during discussions about climate change strategy. He suggested in April that China's ongoing genocide against Muslim Uyghurs in western China should "not get in the way" of a U.S.-China climate agreement.
How in the world are we cooperating with China on climate change? The only thing I can think of is that we have agreed to use climate change to enrich China by shutting down our production and allowing China to produce and enjoy profits.
Most of the ground water in China is polluted.
Many of its cities are devoid of trees and vegetative growth.
It's so bad that Chinese generals have written articles about the necessity of either culling the population or conquering foreign land to ease the devastation of over-population in the homeland.
Do you want to deal w/ China, or just continue wallowing in how terrible America is?
No, it is still their fault, and they live with the consequences. More land where crops can't be grown for food, higher rates of cancer, everything else that comes with higher rates of pollution. Of course, this is including far more than just greenhouse gases, but it's all part of the total package. In time, the people there will demand better regulation of pollution and greenhouse gases, like what happened here. Or not.
Who knows. All I know is there have not been any rivers around my neck of the woods that caught on fire recently... Unlike in the past, when the automotive industry would dump all their waste in the rivers, until one day, it suddenly went up in flames.
Progressive groups backed by billionaire George Soros and several liberal philanthropies are calling on President Joe Biden to ignore China's human rights record and partner with the Communist regime to fight climate change.
Forty-eight progressive organizations issued the letter to Biden this week, including prominent outfits like CODEPINK, Sunrise Movement, the Union of Concerned Scientists, and ActionAid USA. The groups accuse the White House and Congress of taking an "antagonistic approach" to U.S.-China relations that will serve as a "major barrier" to cooperation on climate change. Several of the groups have taken money from liberal organizations that have funded Chinese government-linked programs.
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The Biden administration has struggled with how to balance confrontation with China over its human rights record while developing dialogue with Beijing on the climate change issue. China is seen as a key partner in the climate change fight due to its carbon emissions, population size, and industrial capacity.
...
John Kerry, the administration's climate czar, has faced criticism for saying that he has avoided discussing hot-button issues with his Chinese counterparts during discussions about climate change strategy. He suggested in April that China's ongoing genocide against Muslim Uyghurs in western China should "not get in the way" of a U.S.-China climate agreement.
How in the world are we cooperating with China on climate change? The only thing I can think of is that we have agreed to use climate change to enrich China by shutting down our production and allowing China to produce and enjoy profits.
It's no better in India. In parts of Africa, there was rivers full of trash like nothing you've ever seen. So if we sent the work there, it would be no better. There are places around the world like that, where there isn't much industry, but the pollution is already off the charts. If people are going to dump their garbage in the rivers and lakes, than that's a good indication they will dump industrial waste in the rivers and tons of greenhouse gases in the air. They simply don't care.
This work has to be done somewhere. To reduce pollution, the best way would be to demand less and limit production, but then people would whine that this is bad for the economy.
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