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Old 07-16-2021, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Roughly 70% of Americans favor some pathways to citizenship for law abiding groups such as the proposed dream act. It’s time for Congress to act. Btw, 80% also agreed the situation at the southern border is a problem, so most of the poll respondents are not open borders people.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/99824...-to-citizenshi
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If you want to change the legal status of people in the USA, doing it by executive order is pretty blatantly illegal. Always was. I'm not really sure why this wasn't struck down by the courts the year that Fuhrer Obama this law by edict.

We do have a process for dealing with these things. It's called Congress. Bypassing Congress "because I can't be bothered" or "because they won't do what I tell them to do" has never been valid, but that's exactly how DACA happened.

Far too much dictatorial power rests in the power of the executive order. It needs to be seriously limited.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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If you want to change the legal status of people in the USA, doing it by executive order is pretty blatantly illegal. Always was. I'm not really sure why this wasn't struck down by the courts the year that Fuhrer Obama this law by edict.

We do have a process for dealing with these things. It's called Congress. Bypassing Congress "because I can't be bothered" or "because they won't do what I tell them to do" has never been valid, but that's exactly how DACA happened.

Far too much dictatorial power rests in the power of the executive order. It needs to be seriously limited.
The program may have been a legal overreach under a strict reading of the law. The reason it lasted so long however was the broad majority agreeing on the nobility of its purpose. I agree that Congress needs to take back some power at the expense of the executive though, and legislation curbing use of the executive order could be a way to do some of that.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Roughly 70% of Americans favor some pathways to citizenship for law abiding groups such as the proposed dream act. It’s time for Congress to act. Btw, 80% also agreed the situation at the southern border is a problem, so most of the poll respondents are not open borders people.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/20/99824...-to-citizenshi
About 75% of Americans want a Balanced Budget Amendment, preventing the Federal Government from deficit spending except in the most extreme of emergencies. The Federal government refuses to do this.
About 70% of Americans want the government to do a lot more to stop illegal immigration. The Federal government has never delivered on this and has obstructed endlessly.

How many more things can we list where the American People want X and the federal government refuses to deliver? Seems to happen a lot.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:39 PM
 
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A Win for American Citizens. Shouldn't they Come First.
In this country, we should. In Mexico, Mexicans should come first. Etc.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:41 PM
 
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The program may have been a legal overreach under a strict reading of the law. The reason it lasted so long however was the broad majority agreeing on the nobility of its purpose.
The purpose was not noble, and there was never a "broad majority" supporting it.
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Old 07-16-2021, 08:43 PM
 
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The purpose was not noble, and there was never a "broad majority" supporting it.
^^^^This. 100%
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:10 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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So bye bye 616,030 consumers. I'm sure the all the places you spent your money won't miss you. Your consolation gift is your education paid for by the good 'ol u.s.a. Use it wisely to help increase the GDP in the country of your ethnicity. As it is, the u.s.a. doesn't need you here as it is on a mission to fail. Your help in this mission is greatly appreciated. thank you
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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So bye bye 616,030 consumers. I'm sure the all the places you spent your money won't miss you. Your consolation gift is your education paid for by the good 'ol u.s.a. Use it wisely to help increase the GDP in the country of your ethnicity. As it is, the u.s.a. doesn't need you here as it is on a mission to fail. Your help in this mission is greatly appreciated. thank you
Just immigrate legally, like I did...
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:32 PM
 
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America FIRST!
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