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In 1987 Sanders made the above remarks about having been disgusted about the disastrous the Bay of Pigs Invasion coup attempt.
Ahhh...So Sanders was disgusted at the US orchestrated attempted coup in Cuba, but not of the atrocities committed by communists anywhere else in the world.
Recently, Sanders defended Castro by saying/asking why was Castro a 'bad guy' when Castro started a literacy program for the Cubans.
Does Sanders, or even YOU, understand how stupid that defense sound? Or does Sanders, or YOU genuinely believe that most Americans are that stupid to believe that defense?
Am a refugee from communism, an emigre to the US, a naturalized citizen, and finally a veteran (Cold War then Desert Storm). Do YOU really believe I am that stupid to believe Sanders?
Why would Cubans risked their lives trying to get to the US? That literacy program not good enough?
I tell you this because I believe that the imperialists' aggressiveness makes them extremely dangerous, and that if they manage to carry out an invasion of Cuba--a brutal act in violation of universal and moral law--then that would be the moment to eliminate this danger forever, in an act of the most legitimate self-defense. However harsh and terrible the solution, there would be no other.
not only is he preparing to die himself, he wants to drag us with him. Only lunatics or suicides, who themselves want to perish and to destroy the whole world before they die, could do this.
Under communism, there is no such thing as private property. All property is communally owned, and each person receives a portion based on what they need. A strong central government—the state—controls all aspects of economic production, and provides citizens with their basic necessities, including food, housing, medical care and education.
By contrast, under socialism, individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.
In your opinion who are the top two most influential
Communists in America today?
I believe there's no way we can know that at this moment.... or if it ultimately matters at all. Communism is an INTERNATIONAL movement. Not an American one.
how would you classify an American who they said the support private business but prefer a system more similar to Scandinavian countries, higher taxes, state funded health care and college?
I would classify them as misinformed about two things: 1) since the Scandinavian countries are as much free market, or more so, than America is, right now today. This is according to the various global Economic Freedom Indexes. NONE of them are socialist. Most of them have monarchies still in place, however merely symbolic they are, and multiparty parliamentary systems. The US is roughly equal to, or below them, in the 70 percentile realm. People are free to leave them without restriction. People may emigrate to them. There are multiparty elections. Most of all, they have dynamic economies that are growing and prospering in a free market climate. AND - 2) The USA is very much like the Scandinavian states in many respects on entitlements spending. It's just that ours is much more incompetently managed, crippled by corruption, and hamstrung by layers of fed/state/local politicians all fighting with each other on ideological grounds.
ASIDE FROM THAT ISSUE....
Socialism is NOT entitlements programs or welfare spending. Socialism is NOT defined as services provided by the state, such as fire and police and the military and road building.
Socialism is SPECIFICALLY the development of a centrally controlled economy featuring state-run and controlled enterprises with the end goal of reaching a fully socialist and/or communist order.
Any country can opt to spend money on entitlements in accordance with it's policy and decision making processes - however free or not free that country is. Any free market country can opt to spend most of its revenues on welfare - or none at all - without being socialist.
Socialism means one thing: an economy that is collectivized and centrally planned and directed, with a trend to more and more of the centralization. The line to cross is the ownership of industry and manufacturing and LAND. Generally, the country is AT LEAST nominally socialist once those three things are centralized to a pervasive degree, if not totally. By the same token, socialist countries can opt to allow economic activity on an individual level in a narrow range of activities, such as farmers markets. Like Vietnam does. Or they can totally eliminate any such activities as "black market" crimes, like North Korea does.
And generally, a socialist country that is fully or mostly collectivized will be a one-party authoritarian regime - in order to facilitate the centralized control - with whatever bureaucracy put in place to manage things, as is seen necessary by the party.
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The term "marxist" has been thrown around when there are different variations of the movement, and we all know that. I haven't fully researched all the different variants. A poster here called the movement in the US "neo-marxism." Marxism is often broad general term used to describe people that is inappropriately thrown around, just like the term "socialist" ... a better term would be the term "authoritarian" ... basically people who don't believe in checks and balances and want it done their way, and want everyone to comply and assimilate into this collective.
They also tend to want to be given money to do nothing, which is what leads people to use the term "marxist" or "socialist." Real communist countries frowned upon avoiding work and everyone worked though. As person who lived in the soviet union quoted to me once, avoiding work was a prosecutable offense. Real communists would turn on all these fringe minority groups who are violent and unable to be assimilated into the communist collective. Ironically these people would be the first to be arrested and ultimately killed off.
Trump is constantly mislabeled as an authoritarian by the real authoritarians. They are projecting.
I know I misuse terms here from time to time. I should stop using the term "marxist" and stick to "authoritarian."
Under communism, there is no such thing as private property. All property is communally owned, and each person receives a portion based on what they need. A strong central government—the state—controls all aspects of economic production, and provides citizens with their basic necessities, including food, housing, medical care and education.
By contrast, under socialism, individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.
In your opinion who are the top two most influential
Communists in America today?
BLM and academics. There seems to be a large communist movement growing among the black community. They have been brainwashed to think communism will be kind to them. It’s kind to no one.
BTW, interesting read on the USComunist party which is still active today and plans on running candidates soon. Just as importantly this positively written description of the CPUSA sounds just like the stuff out of the democrats and progressive mouths today. They are using propaganda to take down the US internally.
Under communism, there is no such thing as private property. All property is communally owned, and each person receives a portion based on what they need. A strong central government—the state—controls all aspects of economic production, and provides citizens with their basic necessities, including food, housing, medical care and education.
By contrast, under socialism, individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.
In your opinion who are the top two most influential
Communists in America today?
The only one that matters- Obama.
Obama is the one determining policy in the "Biden admin", which is why everything has turned to chaos.
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