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Old 08-06-2021, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Isn't the OP from canada it's cold as a mofo up there!!
Yes I'm in Canada and my air conditioning has been running since mid June.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The Mexicans aren't crying about lumber going to wastes, as CEMEX insists everything built in Mexico is built out of termite resistant concrete!
One hundred Mexicans are here in BC fighting forest fires.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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"West coast burning, Europe, Asia flooding, Climate has changed".

Yup. The climate has change. It always has in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Maybe instead of putting all our energy into trying to stop it from changing we should be directing our efforts into adapting to those changes.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Isn't the OP from canada it's cold as a mofo up there!!
I believe you live, or did live in NYC?

The OP comes from a city that has a warmer winter than NYC.

Usually summers are temperate and beautiful in Victoria. This year broke all records for heat in the province.

Victoria had a high of 39.9 C which is 103.6 F.

Lytton, north of Vancouver set a new record as well. 49.5 C which is 121.1 F.

Now Lytton usually gets hot summers, usually hitting 40C a few times, but this year is not normal.

Your cliched image of Canada being only cold is surprising, considering you live/lived in NYC which isn't that far from one part of Canada.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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Sorry! That's a flat out false statement and in fact the exact opposite is occurring. https://mobile.twitter.com/BjornLomb...760321/photo/1

Dead link. Was the tweet peer reviewed?

Climate Change Increases the Risk of Wildfires

In this meta-analysis, they found 57 published papers from around the world that back up the assertion that climate change is increasing the risk of fire frequency and severity.

"The impact of anthropogenic climate change on fire weather is emerging above natural variability..."

"All papers show linkages between climate change and increased frequency or severity of fire weather, though some note anomalies in isolated regions. None of the papers support a widespread decrease in fire risk."
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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"West coast burning, Europe, Asia flooding, Climate has changed".

Yup. The climate has change. It always has in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Maybe instead of putting all our energy into trying to stop it from changing we should be directing our efforts into adapting to those changes.
You left the important bit out.

The change in climate is happening MUCH faster than in the past.

Scientists can see that.

What has changed? Well, us.

So BOTH need to be addressed. Preparing for the future, but trying to mitigate as much as we can. Lose the polar ice...and we are done.
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Old 08-06-2021, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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A second town in BC has been destroyed, we have had a total of 1,410 wildfires to date, over 280 fires burning now and new fires every day, so far 2,252 square miles just in BC have burned. We've had no rain on Vancouver Island for 55 days now.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...itish-columbia

Not good in the USA either. 100 large fires have burned 1,947,811 acres (3 043.4 square miles) in 14 states...

https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/nfn
The rub of it is, I agree that Climate Change is a thing. I think that Climate Alarmism seriously undermines the credibility of the unerlying facts of climate change, but there's legit science at the heart of the case made for Climate Change.

Here's where everything goes horribly wrong: You can't convince anyone that Climate Change is a big deal by citing natural disasters when worse examples of those same natural disasters can be found in the past. The worst floods in human history are all a really long time ago, too early for man-made climate change to have been the underlying cause. Two pre-industrial Chinese floods killed millions of people, while none of the more recent floods have killed nearly so many. There are pre-industrial floods bigger than anything that has happened recently. Lots of them worldwide. There's a whole lot of wildfires that were really, really bad, that are likewise too far back to be caused by man-made Climate Change. The worst droughts all happened a very long time ago, with the Dust Bowl still being the worst the USA has ever seen. The Dust Bowl doesn't fit the Climate Change narrative.

Whether you're looking for the worst hurricane, worst tornado, or the worst example of anything else, the single worst is somewhere between 90 and 1000 years old.

You won't get far fear-mongering and pointing at the weather. You'll make a lot more progress doing what people like Elon Musk have done: Make green tech that is better than non-green tech.
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Old 08-06-2021, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yes I'm in Canada and my air conditioning has been running since mid June.
No wonder the USA is decreasing its carbon emissions faster than Canada.
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Old 08-06-2021, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Yes I'm in Canada and my air conditioning has been running since mid June.
On June 15th in Victoria it was 66 degrees. It didn't break 80 until the 20th. You had an unusual 4 day heat wave on the 25th thru 28th, where the temp got over 90 and peaked at 102. It was 75 on the 29th and 30th.

The average temperature for June of this year was 73.1 degrees. For June of 2020, it was 65.5, which was cooler than two years before that, which was 66.7.

Not sure if it's meaningful (not a math/stats geek), but I thought it'd be interesting to look at the total of the temperatures measured for the months of June of 2018-2021, and not just the daily averages. Averages get pulled up or down too easily in this context - there's only 30 samples in the set to average, so one or two days can disproportionately affect the result.

Totals for June of '21 to '18 (by year in descending order): 2193, 1964, 2086, 2002

June of '21 was definitely warmer overall, whether looking at averages or totals (if that matters). The heatwave at the end of the month seems to be the reason, for the most part.

Now that I've done my homework, I remain unconvinced that A. a four day regional heatwave is meaningful with regard to the larger climate debate, and B. that you've needed to run your air conditioner full time since mid June.

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Old 08-06-2021, 04:26 PM
 
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Basically I'm trying to educate the ignorant masses today.
By trolling as per usual.

Nothing more hypocritical than a socialist from Canada. Oil and American business are the only reasons Canada isn’t third world.

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