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Old 08-20-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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Or Covidphobes.

We can play around all day with greek suffixes, I don't understand the reluctance to treat this virus with caution?
Proportional response. I take zero precautions against the Common Cold because my risk of serious illness from it is statistically zero, and I don't care if I catch it because I'll sniffle for a few days, eat a lot of hot soup and sleep it off. Maybe take a couple of days off of work. Simple cost/benefit/risk analysis.

If you're double vaccinated, reasonably fit and under the age of 75, your risk of serious illness (NOT testing positive) is also statistically zero. Even if you're not vaccinated, odds are very good you'll recover without any invasive treatment. I know some of my coworkers who got covid last year and while they got sick, the symptoms weren't anything special. I'm not going to hide under a rock indefinitely for that - in fact I want to get it now so I can have permanent natural immunity, because odds are skewed heavily in my favor that it'll pass without symptoms. I eat mostly organic foods cooked at home, I work out 3-4 times a week, I'm double vaccinated and I'm within a normal weight range. I work from home so have very little personal contact with humans in general. I have no other conditions other than some seasonal allergies. The risk is down to a threshold below which it's no longer worth mitigating. I no longer factor in COVID risk when making decisions about travel or anything else.

Reasonable caution? Yes. I did the whole masking and distancing thing for the first few months of the pandemic. Now "reasonable caution" stops at washing my hands when I come home and staying in shape. Hide in my house in fear indefinitely? Absolutely not. Wear a hankerchief over my nose and mouth indefinitely? Biden can go pound sand.

But see the mainstream media needs to induce panic and fear porn because a rational cost/benefit/risk assessment driven by facts and data is boring and doesn't sell copy. And you can't summarize what I just described in 140 characters on Twitter.

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Old 08-20-2021, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Yes, world deaths. I never stated just United States deaths. Regarding just the United States, Biden has lost over 200,000 American lives WHILE HAVING THE VACCINE HANDED TO HIM! That is truly shocking!
How is Biden responsible for world deaths?
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Yes, world deaths. I never stated just United States deaths. Regarding just the United States, Biden has lost over 200,000 American lives WHILE HAVING THE VACCINE HANDED TO HIM! That is truly shocking!
Are you saying the administration should force people to take the vaccine? Because while the vaccine may have been handed to us, an awful lot of people are pushing that hand away.

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The continued politicization of the virus is obviously not helping. Instead of encouraging all Americans to get vaccinated and take measures to prevent exposure to the virus, the leftist news media
Oops. Can you not see the irony in this statement?

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I was tired of your BS and exhausted from hearing your caterwauling about a year ago last May. But you just keep on rockin' it.
Oooh, more irony. Back at ya.

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I see you insist on continuing to make this political.
Please refer to Post #1, which sets the tone for making "this political".

I wonder who wrote Post #1 ... ? Help me out here, wouldja?
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:07 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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How is Biden responsible for world deaths?
I never stated he was responsible for the deaths in other countries, though I do recall many liberals stating Trump was responsible for such. Ironic how that works with Democrats.

I simply stated how much worse Covid deaths are this year than last, which I find shocking considering we have vaccines this year.

Regarding strictly Biden, I am shocked to discover Biden will reign over more Covid deaths in America than any other president in history and again, that's with multiple vaccines handed to him on a silver platter.

Less than 400,000 people in America died from Covid on Trump's watch when we did not have any vaccines and had to figure everything out from scratch and that's even with the W.H.O. telling the world there is nothing to Covid and that's even with Fauci lying to people telling them not to wear masks because he said they don't work.

So far under Biden, WITH MULTIPLE VACCINES, over 250,000 people in America have died and counting.

Biden is going to easily surpass Trump in Covid deaths. Don't you find that shocking? I do.

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Please refer to Post #1, which sets the tone for making "this political".

I wonder who wrote Post #1 ... ? Help me out here, wouldja?
So let me get this straight. When Democrats blame everything on Trump it is not political, but when anyone blames Biden for anything it is political.

Got it.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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More people have died from the vaccinations than from Covid in 2021.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:20 AM
 
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So let me get this straight. When Democrats blame everything on Trump it is not political, but when anyone blames Biden for anything it is political.
You start your own thread off with a political statement, and then whine because someone else does the same? You know what that's called, right? Starts with "h" and ends with "ypocrisy".
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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Biden is going to easily surpass Trump in Covid deaths. Don't you find that shocking? I do.


Got it.

It's a pandemic. I am not shocked that the virus is not political. Neither are it's variants.

If people would get vaccinated we would have seen a dramatic drop in deaths. But they won't and Biden can't force them to... so here we are.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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It's a pandemic. I am not shocked that the virus is not political. Neither are it's variants.

If people would get vaccinated we would have seen a dramatic drop in deaths. But they won't and Biden can't force them to... so here we are.
More people would get vaccinated if Biden and Harris didn't spend the second half of 2020 telling people not to trust any vaccine developed while Trump was president. Harris even stating "no way in hell am I taking the vaccine". Biden stating "who the hell would want to be first to get that thing"?

Personally, I am getting my booster in October. I got both Pfizer vaccines, but the effectiveness drops to 45% after 6 months, so I will see if they will switch me to Moderna. Moderna is 75% after 6 months.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:16 AM
 
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More people would get vaccinated if Biden and Harris didn't spend the second half of 2020 telling people not to trust any vaccine developed while Trump was president. Harris even stating "no way in hell am I taking the vaccine". Biden stating "who the hell would want to be first to get that thing"?

Personally, I am getting my booster in October. I got both Pfizer vaccines, but the effectiveness drops to 45% after 6 months, so I will see if they will switch me to Moderna. Moderna is 75% after 6 months.
I got a third dose yesterday, and they will give you what you received before, they will not mix. That could change by October.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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According to the CDC ON January 20, 2021, the last day of Trump’s presidency there had been 396,837 Covid deaths. According to them also, as of yesterday (8/19/21) there have been 641,460 deaths to date. That gives Biden 244,623. Of course, we are discussing seven months compared to 22 months. Not real good, you know. Especially going to look bad if the child deaths really do start skyrocketing, like some in the media are predicting.
Worldmeters has 429,000 US deaths on Jan 20.

Two things happened after Jan 20, vaccinations and the Delta Virus.

Still only 51% fully vaccinated dragged down mostly by red states. Also many of states are fighting against vaccine mandates and other restrictions.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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