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Old 08-21-2021, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
Anyone who thinks that the Taliban are going to let American just leave needs to quit drinking their bathwater. That was never going to happen. They have enough Americans at their disposal to demand billions in ransom money but still satisfy the Prophet by soaking the ground with blood. I'm willing to bet that they segregate the men and women, rape torture and murder them and use the men for their ransom demands. Women are worthless lower forms of life to the Taliban and those American women trapped there are an offense to their pig fornicating Prophet.

I'm feeling a rage building within me accompanied by a seething hatred such as I have never felt before. And it's all directed at the Taliban. Minus a chunk of the rage I direct at Democrats in DC and the bleating sheep who put them there. Our people, my fellow citizens, in Afghanistan have been tossed into a rattlesnake den. All of them but especially the women are going to suffer in unspeakable ways because of those people and yeah, that does a LOT more than just pi$$ me off.

And these mindless drones that still sit there and play the same excuses over and over to defend the current executive and legislative powers that hold such a slim majority in DC is like pouring vinegar mixed with salt and alcohol into an open wound topped off with a feeling of nausea induced by drinking dish soap. All we hear from those varmints is but but but TRUMP or links referring us to obscure left wing extremist media articles that just spew the same but but but TRUMP rancid vomit. I've been needing to keep an emesis bag close at hand to my computer nook. The bathroom is too far away.

I would go to the archery range and work some of this rage and frustration out picturing Taliban and leftist neo Dem wackos faces on targets but the smoke from the fires is so bad even going outside to take out the trash requires supplied air. Never before can I recall feeling the level of rage and black seething naked hatred I am feeling right now. Never...
I wish I could rep you 1,000 times. i am feeling exactly the same way. it is such a helpless feeling watching this unfold. I hope it opens closed eyes to the deceit that is in our current government

 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Last time I checked, Biden was the President. He had been for 7 months now. He still is President. For now.

Biden had and has the power to negate all of Trump's work. Why didn't he clean up Trump's mess and pave the way for a smooth and safe exit? No, this fiasco is on Biden not Trump who isn't the President anymore.
Absolutely. The people around him knew better, told him better, he disregarded b/c he has a blind spot on Afghanistan and a long distrust of the military. He just wanted out, believed the crap the Afghan army would hold until we left - wanted to believe even though people on the ground had serious doubts about that. Further, for political reasons, how good would it look to get it done before 9/11. Or, get it done before the mid-terms. Political calculations should have had no bearing when it concerns the lives of our people and the lives of those depending on us. A moral, responsible leader plans for worst case scenario which means keep both airbases secure, troops there until everyone was evacuated - and thorough due diligence on the logistics of doing this. So, it takes another two months. So, what.

Biden said it was "consensus" Kabul/Afghan govt would hold for a few weeks at least - in an attempt to deflect the blame. Total BS. He heard the one thing he wanted to hear and ran with it.

Worse yet, it appears Biden doesn't have a clue how truly awful the situation is at this time - or could become. He doesn't watch TV, apparently is not reading newspapers, and his advisors are not talking straight to him.

A deplorable, completely avoidable, epic catastrophe with far-reaching consequences.

Last edited by Ariadne22; 08-21-2021 at 09:43 PM..
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Jesu Christe on a lunchbox but you Bidenette leftists just can't no matter how hard you try come up with anything different to defend your neo Democrat moonbat demigod and the disciples and apostates surrounding him other than but but but TRUMP. Adults in the White House? OK, well Biden is surely an adult and it's a good thing they make adult diapers is all I've got to say regarding him.

Harris was born long enough ago to be considered an adult to bad her IQ is lower than that of a somewhat decent horse. The yammering lower primates surrounding her and Biden impress me even less. So, you're saying that Biden just kept on trucking with a Trump plan and in 8 months he just didn't have time twixt saving us from all Trumps other disasters like a decently secure border with Mexico, lowest unemployment in 50 years, energy independence lowest gas prices in over 20 years to figure out Trumps withdrawal plan was THIS flawed?

The TOS won't allow the words I'm thinking right now in regards to this blithering idiocy spewing from leftist mouths these days. Their claims of being so much higher educated, morally superior, possessing of intellect so much higher, FAR more socially conscient, "enlightened" as if by the touch of the Lord himself, and add to that "woke" which covers everything else I didn't list have gotten so bloody annoying and tiresome and have them just blowing right past how rankly IGNORANT they truly are.

Nice try there sport but no joy. Club Biden owns this one lack stock and barrel. Bought and paid for. With taxpayer money no less of course that's where they get all their money now ain't it. The left blew past Obamas failures to deliver as promised using that same old "gotta clean up the mess left by conservatives" bilge but at least Obama got by for longer than 8 months before tossing the baby out with the bathwater. My gal my son my 3 yo granddaughter my horse and my herd dog could have done a better job implementing this withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan using cinders from the campfire and scraps of bark to make notes with and draw up orders,

And promoting my dog to head of the Joint Chiefs. Seriously, get some new material. Biden didn't inherit anything from Trump and Trump did far better work and more of it despite being under constant fire from all those frigging leftist heroes in congress. Yeah. thank God (thought you lefties didn't believe in God?) the "adults" are in charge now. Where oh where would we be without them?
^This. I'm so ticked off right now, not just with Biden, but with all the fanboys and girls who are programmed, apparently.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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Audio of American Mom Trapped by Taliban Describes Horror, Begs for President Biden's Help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doJ0L6dNVA
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
NY Post says this:

Taliban seizing Afghan-American’s US passports outside Kabul airport

https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/taliba...tside-airport/
Per this: https://www.city-data.com/forum/61734847-post18.html
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“U.S. passports, driver’s licenses — they are confiscating those pieces of documentation from American citizens,” said Ephraim Mattos, a former Navy SEAL and founder of the humanitarian organization, Stronghold Rescue and Relief, which is working around the clock to evacuate Afghans interpreters and helpers. “They lose proof of who they are, and this has happened on multiple occasions in multiple places.”

//www.city-data.com/forum/newre...e=1&p=61734759
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They should have told the military years ago to roll it up and go home --- shoot 'em if they try to follow.

You know since 2001 and we got into this mess, people said we shouldn't have. President both Bush and Obama would set withdrawal dates and something would happen and they couldn't do a follow through --- people expressed disappointment. Biden stuck to it with a no matter what attitude and now people are p? I don't get it.
Again, it's not the withdrawal that is the problem it's how he did it. Should have taken the civilians out first, then secure all military equipment that would be left behind and then finally roll out. And do all of this without announcing it on the evening news first.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NVplumber View Post
Jesu Christe on a lunchbox but you Bidenette leftists just can't no matter how hard you try come up with anything different to defend your neo Democrat moonbat demigod and the disciples and apostates surrounding him other than but but but TRUMP. Adults in the White House? OK, well Biden is surely an adult and it's a good thing they make adult diapers is all I've got to say regarding him.

Harris was born long enough ago to be considered an adult to bad her IQ is lower than that of a somewhat decent horse. The yammering lower primates surrounding her and Biden impress me even less. So, you're saying that Biden just kept on trucking with a Trump plan and in 8 months he just didn't have time twixt saving us from all Trumps other disasters like a decently secure border with Mexico, lowest unemployment in 50 years, energy independence lowest gas prices in over 20 years to figure out Trumps withdrawal plan was THIS flawed?

The TOS won't allow the words I'm thinking right now in regards to this blithering idiocy spewing from leftist mouths these days. Their claims of being so much higher educated, morally superior, possessing of intellect so much higher, FAR more socially conscient, "enlightened" as if by the touch of the Lord himself, and add to that "woke" which covers everything else I didn't list have gotten so bloody annoying and tiresome and have them just blowing right past how rankly IGNORANT they truly are.

Nice try there sport but no joy. Club Biden owns this one lack stock and barrel. Bought and paid for. With taxpayer money no less of course that's where they get all their money now ain't it. The left blew past Obamas failures to deliver as promised using that same old "gotta clean up the mess left by conservatives" bilge but at least Obama got by for longer than 8 months before tossing the baby out with the bathwater. My gal my son my 3 yo granddaughter my horse and my herd dog could have done a better job implementing this withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan using cinders from the campfire and scraps of bark to make notes with and draw up orders,

And promoting my dog to head of the Joint Chiefs. Seriously, get some new material. Biden didn't inherit anything from Trump and Trump did far better work and more of it despite being under constant fire from all those frigging leftist heroes in congress. Yeah. thank God (thought you lefties didn't believe in God?) the "adults" are in charge now. Where oh where would we be without them?
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Originally Posted by 68551 View Post
I wish I could rep you 1,000 times. i am feeling exactly the same way. it is such a helpless feeling watching this unfold. I hope it opens closed eyes to the deceit that is in our current government
The multiple failures are coming so fast we are reaching the point where we will need a minute by minute update to keep up.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:42 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
They should have told the military years ago to roll it up and go home --- shoot 'em if they try to follow.

You know since 2001 and we got into this mess, people said we shouldn't have. President both Bush and Obama would set withdrawal dates and something would happen and they couldn't do a follow through --- people expressed disappointment. Biden stuck to it with a no matter what attitude and now people are p? I don't get it.
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There is your answer.

"No matter what" is 15,000 Americans safety and likely some lives right now.

Is that "no matter what" a good thing now and worth it?
Was the u.s. presence being in that country for the last 20 yrs, worth it? There were citizens born since 9-11 that were wondering what the u.s. military was even doing there. Spending their paychecks?
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Originally Posted by BusinessManIT View Post
Let me spell it out. It wasn't the desire to roll up and go home. It was the way that the withdrawal was handled. Pulling out the US troops before all Americans and allies were evacuated is criminal negligence. That is what this uproar is about.
It wasn't a perfect plan, okay, I'll go that. Point still remains, every time there was talk about withdrawal the Taliban would start up something else, I swear they did that just to keep us there and to keep us spending money on our military.

9-11 was significant in more ways, than just taking down those Towers and killing 3000 people. They came here to pick a fight, as well as, cause the u.s. economic harm. The u.s. took a huge hit in transportation and another in military spending. The object of the game --- keep the spending going. And it has worked. Every time.

It isn't about taking lives --- its about crippling the u.s economy; taking down a country that way. Always was, always will be. The most explosive boom one could ever throw, so as to overthrow a country hit the country in their pocket book, watch 'em fall. That is the war strategy that was talked about 20 yrs ago and it hasn't changed yet.
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Actually, Trump's plan was to draw down to only 2500 U.S. troops long before the evacuation was completed. At least Biden has the good sense to still have 6000 troops there. Facts are drag huh?
So the u.s. military hasn't left yet? Means it's not done yet. Which means, they've won, again.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MAGAalot View Post
Audio of American Mom Trapped by Taliban Describes Horror, Begs for President Biden's Help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doJ0L6dNVA
This is Joe Biden's legacy.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 08:47 PM
 
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Was the u.s. presence being in that country for the last 20 yrs, worth it? There were citizens born since 9-11 that were wondering what the u.s. military was even doing there. Spending their paychecks?
This is the here & now of the disaster run by Biden & Co..
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