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(1) The world isn't divided into the "vaccinated" and "unvaccinated". That's propaganda designed to control your behavior to achieve a desired outcome.
(2) Medically speaking, the world is divided into the "immune" and "susceptible". If you have a positive IGG test or T-cell test, you have immunity to ALL the CURRENT strains of Covid. This immunity is both broader and longer lasting than that conferred by the vaccine. You have no need to get the vaccine.
(3) If you fall into the susceptible group, you need to engage in personal a risk benefit analysis and decided what to do AS AN INDIVIDUAL. If you're over 60 (the Covid mortality curve slope changes appreciably in the mid 60s) or have comorbidities, you may decided that being vaccinated confers enough of a survival benefit to you to get the shot.
(4) On the other hand if you fall into the susceptible group and are a health 17 year old, you may realize that your Covid mortality risk is extremely low and decide that the side effect profile AND the superiority of natural immunity leads you NOT to get the shot.
(5) Early, aggressive outpatient treatment using Regeneron, HCQ, Azithromycin, Zinc, Aspirin needs to be given to people at a much higher rate than it currently is.
At this point the public health "universal vaccination" mandate is INTERFERING with an appropriate response to the virus.
This is an excellent post. Repped.
The field of climate science has largely lost its credibility as a result of being coopted by a globalist political agenda. Sadly, the medical field - which is far more important than climate science - is now capitulating to a similar agenda around this virus. It is truly tragic and to see these people diminish themselves and their profession like this at a time when we really need for them to step up and be responsible leaders is an enormous loss that we do not want or need.
One of the medical doctors who posts in this forum posted a thread asking why so many people are not just blindly trusting their medical doctors on this issue. It is because so many of these medical doctors have lost their objectivity and are so subjected to "the process," which is fed by directives and research generated at the top by organizations like the CDC and FDA, which has gone off the rails of scientific integrity and medically responsibility.
What does scientific integrity and medical responsibility look like, if it is not the agenda that the regime occupying the white house, the CDC, the FDA and therefore a great many medical doctors are pushing? Well, it looks a lot like the post quoted above^^^^.
Medical doctors: if you want to be trusted, you need to get back on the rails of scientific integrity and medical responsibility. It is not so just because you say it is. It does not work like that, regardless of whether you think it should, or not. We need for you to step outside of "the process" and exercise some professional objectivity in a way that I believe is not part of your normal operating behavior pattern. As long as what you are doing is just parroting the politically motivated agenda of the Democrat left regime in Washington, then you do not deserve our trust, and you should not feel disappointed when you do not receive it.
If you have a positive IGG test or T-cell test, you have immunity to ALL the CURRENT strains of Covid.
Excellent post. Thank you. Key question here is WHY aren't we testing via IGG tests or T-cell tests, and the CDC/NIH specifically going to great lengths to discourage/prevent people from getting their own tests? Including, after one receives a vaccine. If the vaccine wasn't effective in an individual, OR a percentage of the population, wouldn't both the individual want to know that (and make their own health decisions accordingly), and the CDC/NIH want to know from a public health perspective?
Actually and more productively, perhaps join us on the left seeking a viable health care option that does NOT depend on your employment status? A provider? Like a … payer? A single payer? Great plan, right?
Switzerland, men in Europe 81.7 years, Spain 80.5 years according to Eurostat 2016
"In conclusion, it is a simple measure, extremely synthetic, but often the data it refers to is misleading or interpreted inaccurately. And misinformations will logically lead to misconceptions. For example, assuming that its variation does not depend on the level of the country's welfare state, but that its evolution over time is the result of inertia could lead some governments to limit access to public services or not guarantee what we consider basic rights (water and its quality, for example) or extremely important issues, such as labour rights, thinking that this would have no effect on life expectancy. To sum up, it could lead us to trivialize its importance or to assume that a decrease in life expectancy of a generation (which is an average) only affects the ones who live the longest." (my bold)
"The indicators already show that we’re falling apart. America’s life expectancy has declined for the last three years in a row, the first time in a hundred years, because of surges in suicides and drug overdoses."
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A CDC report cited three causes of death that have contributed to the decline in life expectancy: drug overdoses and suicides, as Yang said, but also chronic liver disease. (The CDC said chronic liver disease may be caused by both biological and behavioral factors, including hepatitis C or hepatitis B infection and excessive alcohol consumption.)"
The U.S. spends more on health care as a share of the economy — nearly twice as much as the average OECD country — yet has the lowest life expectancy and highest suicide rates among the 11 nations.
The U.S. has the highest chronic disease burden and an obesity rate that is two times higher than the OECD average.
Americans had fewer physician visits than peers in most countries, which may be related to a low supply of physicians in the U.S.
Americans use some expensive technologies, such as MRIs, and specialized procedures, such as hip replacements, more often than our peers.
The U.S. outperforms its peers in terms of preventive measures — it has the one of the highest rates of breast cancer screening among women ages 50 to 69 and the second-highest rate (after the U.K.) of flu vaccinations among people age 65 and older.
Compared to peer nations, the U.S. has among the highest number of hospitalizations from preventable causes and the highest rate of avoidable deaths.
During the Spanish Flu 1918 life expectancy dropped 12 years during that time. Today (2019) it drops, because of suicides, not disease. That's why it matters. With the u.s. drop in economic freedoms, there's much doom and gloom feeling; people turn to drug use and then turn up dead. It doesn't help that our health care is subpar either.
Now we have COVID which has exacerbated on already strained system; something that has a 98% survival rate.
Actually and more productively, perhaps join us on the left seeking a viable health care option that does NOT depend on your employment status? A provider? Like a … payer? A single payer? Great plan, right?
Yep, better than SSI since the days of FDR --- where a person pays into a government insurance plan and the government hopes the person dies, before they can collect it back out, because hell, the government spent the person's money already.
Excellent post. Thank you. Key question here is WHY aren't we testing via IGG tests or T-cell tests, and the CDC/NIH specifically going to great lengths to discourage/prevent people from getting their own tests? Including, after one receives a vaccine. If the vaccine wasn't effective in an individual, OR a percentage of the population, wouldn't both the individual want to know that (and make their own health decisions accordingly), and the CDC/NIH want to know from a public health perspective?
Because big Pharma is running the show.
Many of Biden's advisors are from big Pharma.
The FDA is a revolving door for big Pharma
Excellent post. Thank you. Key question here is WHY aren't we testing via IGG tests or T-cell tests, and the CDC/NIH specifically going to great lengths to discourage/prevent people from getting their own tests? Including, after one receives a vaccine. If the vaccine wasn't effective in an individual, OR a percentage of the population, wouldn't both the individual want to know that (and make their own health decisions accordingly), and the CDC/NIH want to know from a public health perspective?
You can get these tests. Most recovered don't need them. Most vaccinated don't need them. Most recovered should still get the vaccine. But if you do not want it, then the T cell testing should suffice. IMO in the not too distant future it will suffice. But our research data and related published and peer reviewed studies are not yet out there. I'm told that the T testing works in some parts of Europe.
Well, it’s psychology.
If you test for immunity and are immune positive, you may end up thinking - why in the world do I need vaccine then. Right? What lowers vaccine manufacturers profit.
It is much better for business to keep testing for COVID presence, as then person gets scared and runs to get shot. Basic marketing, really.
As literally everyone is a carrier, to be honest.
remember back in the good ole days (about 2 months ago) when they were telling you to get vaccinated because then even if you got Covid it would be a very mild case which wouldn't require a hospital stay....
In order of claims:
1. It will end the pandemic and return life to normal
1. It will end the pandemic and return life to normal
2. If you get the shot, no Covid for you.
3. It will keep you alive and out of the hospital
4. It will keep you alive
5. You'll get a $10 Walgreens gift card...
Yep, and people are losing their minds trying to defend getting the shot and trying to rationalize every time this vaccine takes a step down on their "claims" list. I'd say it was laughable, but the cult-like thinking is downright scary
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