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Old 09-02-2021, 07:27 AM
 
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Yep, and people are losing their minds trying to defend getting the shot and trying to rationalize every time this vaccine takes a step down on their "claims" list. I'd say it was laughable, but the cult-like thinking is downright scary
And they still want control over your life.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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Your post is not true. Some vaccines can stop infection completely but many just lessen the symptoms. That is the real information.
Some vaccines are close to 100%, but many are not. Influenza, Pneumovax, Shingrix, BCG, Anthrax, Hepatitis vaccines are definitely not 100%.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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Someone who is not vaccinated could infect and kill other people. That is FACT. In a free country it is the government's DUTY to intercede when the actions of one person impact the freedom of others. The people who are not vaccinated should and are facing restrictions and that is how it should be. There are people who cannot be vaccinated or who will not develop a strong immune response. It is the government's duty to regulate those situations. That is the very definition of "free country" and "freedom".
The viral load in the vaxxed is similar to unvaxxed and can spread it just as easily

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...evels-of-virus

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...d-delta-easily
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Old 09-02-2021, 03:18 PM
 
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You don't understand vaccines, clearly. There is a distinction between vaccines that reduce risk of getting disease and lessening symptoms, and those that provide complete immunity.

If the COVID vaccine is a failure, then the chickenpox vaccine is, also. Because it doesn't prevent you from getting chickenpox in some cases, it just prevents severe symptoms. Same for measles. Same for polio. In fact, most vaccines don't provide complete and guaranteed immunity-they just lessen the risk of transmission and symptoms.
Clearly it is you who doesn't understand vaccines. People who are vaccinated for chickenpox, measles, and polio almost never get those diseases. As for the COVID vaccine, well ...

Here is proof of the success of the polio vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pol...20tOPV%2C%20or

Also, why are so many people refusing to take the COVID vaccine, but are perfectly fine with polio, measles, and chickenpox vaccines?
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Old 09-02-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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Those who are unvaccinated might want to stay that way since the vaccines have greatly lost their ability to prevent infection and hospitalization.

The majority of hospitalized Israeli covid-19 patients are fully vaccinated:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...udy-finds.html


As some scientists have already stated, coronaviruses mutate/evolve too rapidly for vaccines to effectively contain them. We need to focus on developing more effective treatments for those who get infected, since vaccines won't stop this pandemic.
Now what Ask Joe Biden. He's got all the right answers.
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Old 09-02-2021, 03:49 PM
 
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Clearly it is you who doesn't understand vaccines. People who are vaccinated for chickenpox, measles, and polio almost never get those diseases. As for the COVID vaccine, well ...

Here is proof of the success of the polio vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pol...20tOPV%2C%20or

Also, why are so many people refusing to take the COVID vaccine, but are perfectly fine with polio, measles, and chickenpox vaccines?
Do you think that might have something to do with herd immunity? Just a bit?

In answer to your question, because of misinformation campaigns sparked by our previous President’s pandering demagoguery and the general cultish behavior of his fans.
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Old 09-02-2021, 03:56 PM
 
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The viral load in the vaxxed is similar to unvaxxed and can spread it just as easily

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...evels-of-virus

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...d-delta-easily

But vaccinated people do not get infected as often.
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Old 09-02-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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The viral load in the vaxxed is similar to unvaxxed and can spread it just as easily

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...evels-of-virus

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...d-delta-easily

"A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others."
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:54 PM
 
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But vaccinated people do not get infected as often.
But they do get infected so put on mask.

And for the vast majority of people that have had Covid and survived, they have far superior protection against the Delta Variant than the holier than thou types that think they're special because they got a pfizer shot.
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