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Old 08-23-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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Would you like to break that news to American citizens by birth Puerto Ricans?
No, but I would give them their independence.

 
Old 08-23-2021, 02:58 PM
 
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This kind of nonsense is no longer surprising these days, unfortunately.

https://www.kmaland.com/news/ia-lati...387ab285c.html
Isn't some basic proficiency in English required to become a citizen? Then why are we kowtowing with this foreign language stuff? They're Americans now - speak English.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 05:25 PM
 
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Isn't some basic proficiency in English required to become a citizen? Then why are we kowtowing with this foreign language stuff? They're Americans now - speak English.
I couldn't agree more. I suspect that this push for Spanish ballots in part is so that illegal aliens and non-citizen Latinos can vote.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 05:39 PM
 
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I couldn't agree more. I suspect that this push for Spanish ballots in part is so that illegal aliens and non-citizen Latinos can vote.
Amen.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 06:20 PM
 
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As a country without an official language, I don't believe it to be nonsense.
States have official languages, and English ability is required in order to become a citizen (and thus to vote).
 
Old 08-23-2021, 06:24 PM
 
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It is way past time for us to declare English as our national language, and to mandate that all official documents and records be in English only.
Agree.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 06:29 PM
 
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Having gone through the process I know this, however, the English test is not what I would call thorough, it's extremely basic. A political manifesto or even a ballot would be a huge jump from the basic words and sentences you can learn through repetition for the citizenship test.
The ballot is 4th grade level English. There is little on a ballot even in full sentences. The English test for citizenship is sufficient to actually cast a vote.

A "political manifesto" would be a party document. It should be up to the party to determine how to make its content and their party platform clear to their own constituency.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 06:32 PM
 
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Well, slight exaggeration. You have to be able to parrot back phrases in English that you've been able to practice for weeks from a pamphlet they give you. It's hardly reading War & Peace.

American citizens who live in Puerto Rico may not speak English, are they less American than English speakers? The law says they are not.

Voters should be informed, that's all. If they require the materials in a different foreign language they should be available. I'll never understand the hostility to foreign languages in America, considering you already butchered the English language
That's a "problem" that was practically solved by political parties for their constituencies 200 years ago. Voting question materials are mostly produced by political parties.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 08:05 PM
 
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I couldn't agree more. I suspect that this push for Spanish ballots in part is so that illegal aliens and non-citizen Latinos can vote.
Of course it is. The extreme demographic shift in Iowa isn't from American Hispanics who've lived here for generations and are English-fluent, nor is it from legal immigrants who recently acquired citizenship. The greedy, cheapskate agribusinesses in that state are notorious for hiring illegals.
 
Old 08-23-2021, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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The ballot is 4th grade level English. There is little on a ballot even in full sentences. The English test for citizenship is sufficient to actually cast a vote.
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In many states, not really. When direct initiatives are on the ballot, they can often run 4-5 paragraphs and while my state requires that the wording for direct initiatives passes a judicial review to make sure the language in the initiative is reasonably easy to comprehend and does not contain misleading language, it’s not the case in all states
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