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Old 08-25-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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Just curious. I am always interested in exactly WHY some people don’t want the Covid vaccine. That is their right; however, I wonder if those same individuals trust the advice their physicians provide in other health issues?

If yes, why the inconsistency? If no, why go to the doctor at all?

Our chief of staff commented last week that if we had the internet 60-70 years ago, we would probably still have polio and small pox affecting patients in the US. Vaccination, of course, eliminated both of those diseases. When I was a med student, whooping cough and diphtheria were interesting from a historical and third world prospective only. No one ever expected to see anyone with those diseases; illegal immigration has changed all that.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:26 PM
 
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I don't accept what a doctor says just because they're a doctor. I've seen some really bad calls.

As for the vaccine, I've decided I don't need it. I don't want it. I'm an adult. I can decide for myself.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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I have ALWAYS considered my doctors advice but do not accept it as the gospel. Before anything I consider an important medical decision I do ample research. This is no different.

For the record my family doctor received the 'vaccine' but he made it clear to me he is not sold on its efficacy and only did so to not cause issues for his practice.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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I have ALWAYS considered my doctors advice but do not accept it as the gospel. Before anything I consider an important medical decision I do ample research. This is no different.

For the record my family doctor received the 'vaccine' but he made it clear to me he is not sold on its efficacy and only did so to not cause issues for his practice.

Curious - your doctor said he is not sold on its efficacy now? Or back when it was first introduced? The data is pretty clear, and impressive.

Where do you do your research? Medical journals/sources?
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:36 PM
 
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Just curious. I am always interested in exactly WHY some people don’t want the Covid vaccine. That is their right; however, I wonder if those same individuals trust the advice their physicians provide in other health issues?

If yes, why the inconsistency? If no, why go to the doctor at all?

Our chief of staff commented last week that if we had the internet 60-70 years ago, we would probably still have polio and small pox affecting patients in the US. Vaccination, of course, eliminated both of those diseases. When I was a med student, whooping cough and diphtheria were interesting from a historical and third world prospective only. No one ever expected to see anyone with those diseases; illegal immigration has changed all that.
Good questions. It would also be interesting to know why you personally trust medical authorities in regards to these vaccines but take a don't-trust-anyone conspiracy theorist view on just about every other issue discussed here.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:41 PM
 
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Just curious. I am always interested in exactly WHY some people don’t want the Covid vaccine. That is their right; however, I wonder if those same individuals trust the advice their physicians provide in other health issues?

If yes, why the inconsistency? If no, why go to the doctor at all?

Our chief of staff commented last week that if we had the internet 60-70 years ago, we would probably still have polio and small pox affecting patients in the US. Vaccination, of course, eliminated both of those diseases. When I was a med student, whooping cough and diphtheria were interesting from a historical and third world prospective only. No one ever expected to see anyone with those diseases; illegal immigration has changed all that.
Part of the problem is there are many "quacks" that are Dr's. One need only look at the anti covid Vax groups to see they are lead by groups of Doctors.

I trust my GP, but verify, if it is a significant issue.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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Curious - your doctor said he is not sold on its efficacy now? Or back when it was first introduced? The data is pretty clear, and impressive.

Where do you do your research? Medical journals/sources?
This was a discussion we had about a month and half ago. Early July.

He has always been a straight shooter with me going back to when he was my Mom's doctor over 20 years ago.

As for research, yes medical publications, the CDC, too many places to list. I have probably read more about Covid-19 and these 'vaccines' than I have about any other subject in my life. Nothing I have yet read has led me to believe it is the best course for me. I will continue to abstain.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:50 PM
 
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Just curious. I am always interested in exactly WHY some people don’t want the Covid vaccine. That is their right; however, I wonder if those same individuals trust the advice their physicians provide in other health issues?

If yes, why the inconsistency? If no, why go to the doctor at all?

Our chief of staff commented last week that if we had the internet 60-70 years ago, we would probably still have polio and small pox affecting patients in the US. Vaccination, of course, eliminated both of those diseases. When I was a med student, whooping cough and diphtheria were interesting from a historical and third world prospective only. No one ever expected to see anyone with those diseases; illegal immigration has changed all that.
Nope. With polio and smallpox, even with today's internet and media landscape, the urgency would have been greater and the end game would have been clearer. Polio and smallpox are both much more dangerous on a per-person basis than Sars-Cov-2. Polio is transmitted differently from Sars-Cov-2, which is in the air. Smallpox is a DNA virus that mutates nowhere near as quickly as Sars-Cov-2. You have to play pretend, if you want to make the argument that these viruses are the same and humanity would have responded the same way absent the exalted "experts" and politicians. Reality is, people aren't stupid, and they recognize that these viruses aren't much alike.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:59 PM
 
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I worked in big pharma for a decade and my job was basically to monitor our corruption. I know exactly how the game is played between the Government and the people.

Im not vaccinated because I simply understand the data behind it and know im not a at risk person. I would much rather get Covid then have an issue a decade down the road from an experimental vaccine.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:01 PM
 
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I worked in big pharma for a decade and my job was basically to monitor our corruption. I know exactly how the game is played between the Government and the people.

Im not vaccinated because I simply understand the data behind it and know im not a at risk person. I would much rather get Covid then have an issue a decade down the road from an experimental vaccine.
Exactly, why is the government not encouraging people to maybe be more healthy ? Excercise? Vitamin D, C and Zinc? Maybe lose the extra 50 lbs?

Nope. They are saying take the jab and mask up. Youll be fine. $$$$$$$$$

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