What's a good compromise for abortion (stats, website, legal, state)

[emm74]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Yes, it is convenience. It's more convenient, financially, to not have a child. It's more convenient for the custodial parent's career to not have a child. Etc.

Yes, it's so "convenient" to be able to earn a living in order to keep a roof over your head and feed the kids you already have.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

I’m seeing a pattern to all your posts…………..men are not to blame/ responsible……….just the woman.

Men don't have any say in abortion. What happens when the father wants the baby, but the mother wants to kill it?

[LookinForMayberry]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

It's no longer just her body when fetal homicide laws allow those who kill a fetus regardless of whether the mother dies or not for the prosecution to be charged with murder, or at least manslaughter. That sets the legal precedent that a fetus is a separate human life.

As long as the fetus is dependent upon the mother, it is not a life, no matter what warped view of life your sick mind has constructed. It is a parasite.

[emm74]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Men don't have any say in abortion. What happens when the father wants the baby, but the mother wants to kill it?

It's not a baby, no one is killing anyone.

The fact that you choose to frame it in that manner is simply your personal opinion, not a statement of fact.

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

I didn’t say they never happen, I just don’t agree that pregnancy is a common outcome when preventative measures are taken. Birth control methods vary in effectiveness and depending on usage. I never said they were perfect or that women can’t ever get pregnant if they take precautions. It’s just not the most common outcome.

Well if you have sex on average 20 times a month those 3-5% averages happen quite often……..

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

You actually believe those deadbeat fathers actually pay that support???

Those with a job and/or assets are forced to or they go to jail.

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by AguaDulce

I have no kids and I chose sterilization at age 25 in 1990.

But sterilization costs money, is invasive, and it may not be reversible, whereas condoms are free and non-invasive.

Plus, there are many stories of people who were sterilized and still made babies, so it's also not foolproof.

Again, in addition to guarding against STDs (which sterilization does not, BTW),

Condoms + Fertility Awareness = 99.96% effective with perfect use - 96.6% effective with typical use

Condoms + Withdrawal = 99.92% effective with perfect use - 96.2% effective with typical use

Vasectomy= 100% effective

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

Another viable option……….this war on women needs to shift.

How is it a "war on women" when it could save up to 27,000+ females' lives each year? The only war on women is abortion. It has killed millions of women.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by LookinForMayberry

As long as the fetus is dependent upon the mother, it is not a life, no matter what warped view of life your sick mind has constructed. It is a parasite.

A parasite?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

I’m sure that is a large percentage…….

20.1% of fathers are the custodial parent.