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Old 12-10-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Were they offered adjunctive treatment before going to the hospital?

If not it is unethical.

Doubt the story it is all about the unvaccinated as the vaccinated also catch and spread the disease.

ICUs are designed to operate at near capacity because of cost... doesn't take much to max out an ICU.

Why halt elective surgeries???????????

Trust lost in healthcare and government numbers and policies.

This isn't about ICU's, it's about beds being available

Sorry bro, most hospitals that are filled are the unvaccinated. Vaccinated people who catch it usually don't get sick enough to be hospitalized

 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Are they hospitalized for covid or did they test positive while they were being admitted for something else?
If they have Covid, why does it matter?
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Why halt elective surgeries? Are you trolling?

Because the unvaccinated have have strained the hospitals so much they can't perform them
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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"Following Thanksgiving, we're seeing cases going up again now over 100,000 new cases every day, and we didn't want to be there, and hospitalizations also going up, and, sadly, deaths now in excess of 1,000 every day, the vast majority of those being unvaccinated people," Collins said.

Michigan sets hospitalization record, leads nation in new coronavirus cases per capita
It will be worse after Christmas and New Year's.

 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Were they offered adjunctive treatment before going to the hospital?

If not it is unethical.

Doubt the story it is all about the unvaccinated as the vaccinated also catch and spread the disease.

ICUs are designed to operate at near capacity because of cost... doesn't take much to max out an ICU.

Why halt elective surgeries???????????

Trust lost in healthcare and government numbers and policies.
Because some hospitals are running on fumes. My mother had an emergency surgery for a sepsis canceled on her a couple of months ago. In the end, she had the procedure, but it was a battle. She was sent home immediately following a four-hour abdominal surgery. Hard to imagine in better times, but it's currently the reality in hard-hit areas. If hospitals are at the point of canceling emergency surgeries, they most certainly are calling a halt to elective procedures.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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Why halt elective surgeries? Are you trolling?

Because the unvaccinated have have strained the hospitals so much they can't perform them
why halt them? cause the hospitals fired staff in order to conform to medicare mandates! and other staff are burnt out and disgusted and can make lots more money per week being traveling nurses! that is a no brainer!
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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If they have Covid, why does it matter?
Being hospitalized due to covid related illness is different than being hospitalized due to say, being stabbed in the chest with an ice pick. And then turning up covid positive based upon a lab test.

Two different things.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hospitalizations are going up very fast here. It’s mostly unvaccinated younger people or vaccinated people with cancer or other significant immune compromise.
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Old 12-10-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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Why halt elective surgeries? Are you trolling?

Because the unvaccinated have have strained the hospitals so much they can't perform them
Sorry bro, if your hospitals are strained your state hasn't been doing its job.

You don't get to fire a bunch of healthcare workers while in the same breath proclaiming a "public health emergency" then complain about hospitals being strained.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 02:28 PM
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/07/healt...ons/index.html

88 percent are unvaccinated. Not only are they a strain they are also canceling elective surgeries for people
I didn't see your state that 88% were unvaccinated, but perhaps I missed it.

However, if that is true the just remember it was a few short months ago that every report was 100% or 99% of the COVID patients were unvaccinated. It was also a few short months ago that the same ones reporting those numbers were the same ones who said that we would never see an increase in the vaccinated because they won't get as sick.

Well...now that we are at 12% vaccinated, how many are going to try to justify this number? Will they be here justifying it when it is 50/50, or perhaps flips and we get the vaccinated accounting for 88% of the hospitalizations?
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