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Excellent response. I'm a veteran of the Iraq war back in 2003, and I couldn't agree more, mistake will happen in war time, just no way around it. We've had at least 35 Americans killed by friendly fire during the Gulf War.
Therefore, if China sent a drone to bomb a US military base, and the attack went wrong and killed 10 innocent "US" civilians (including your mother) sitting in a van outside the base, then you would **EXCUSE** that attack as "mistakes happen".
Actually Japan and innocent Japanese civilians suffered worse than 9/11: The US atomic bombings of 2 cities full of hundreds of thousands of civilians.
US combatants knew exactly the characters (civilian nature) of their targets and attacked anyway. The rest is history.
Russia and China would know better.
Lol……………and Japan had their way with china and Russia………
Lol……………and Japan had their way with china and Russia………
No, not "Japan" ...... you're referring to the Japanese government and military.
The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of Japanese "civilians" utterly hated the war, disapproved of the government and were terrified of Japan's military. Those innocent civilians did not deserve to be murdered by the US in those 2 atomic bomb war crimes.
Therefore, if China sent a drone to bomb a US military base, and the attack went wrong and killed 10 innocent "US" civilians (including your mother) sitting in a van outside the base, then you would **EXCUSE** that attack as "mistakes happen".
When it's not **YOUR** innocent mother, daughter, son, father, grandchild etc getting killed in a drone attack you are obviously happy to offer your ***EXCUSES*** for war crimes against civilians like that US drone attack.
If Russia sent a drone to a US city and attacked a vehicle your mother and daughter/son/relative were in and they were KILLED ...... would you then insist "I don't have all the information including classified, it's irresponsible for me to judge Russia's drone attack on my mother"? Nope you wouldn't say that .... you'd call it out for what it is **A CRIME AGAINST YOUR MOTHER** ..... yet you DON'T have the guts to call out the US drone attack that killed innocent Afghan civilians. Sad.
The definition of war crimes in international law is: a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians or intentionally killing prisoners of war; torture the taking of hostages, and the unnecessary destruction of civilian property; deception by perfidy, rape, pillaging, and the conscription of child soldiers, the granting of no quarter, despite surrender, and flouting the legal distinction of proportionality and military necessity.
This is NOT a war crime. If you have any direct evidence Sherlock that the operation intended to kill 10 civilians that had no connection to the war or battle, We want to hear. This is a war zone and incidents like this happens all the time especially from the other side which is intentional. You never served in the military and have no idea what our Armed Forces is about.
Sad that your ignorance is bigger than your mouth.
No, not "Japan" ...... you're referring to the Japanese government and military.
The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of Japanese "civilians" utterly hated the war, disapproved of the government and were terrified of Japan's military. Those innocent civilians did not deserve to be murdered by the US in those 2 atomic bomb war crimes.
Again, you are clueless and ignorant. Japan before and during the war were a culture that they were very blindly obedient to the Emperor and felt they were the superior race in Asia. Japan were nastier than the Nazis. The emperor was a God in their culture. When the Emperor gave the green light for Japan to invade China, Korea and Taiwan before the war, the people supported him. Then Japan attacked the U.S. while invading and raping the Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Malaysia, Dutch Indies, Singapore, New Guinea, Guam, Wake Island and more. The people supported the Emperor and his plan for Asia.
Japan started this war and they could have prevented the A-Bombs if they surrendered after Midway but they were too arrogant to surrender and kept attacking and killing our troops and allies and didn't want to surrender their conquered countries and our choice was to invade the whole country to stop their war machine or throw 2 new bombs called Atomic bombs and force them to surrender and end the war (which they did)
or you rather prolonged the war for 4 to 5 years more by invading the whole country and killing a lot more civilians including Americans? The Soviets just declared war on Japan and wanted to invade from the North and the Red Army would have raped, killed and mop the floor with Japan. So Truman had to act fast for their unconditionally surrender and the 2 Atomic bombs saved their country. If the Soviets went it, they weren't coming out. Japan would have been divided in 2 after the war and We know what happened to the countries under the control of the Soviets.
You don't know much about history or served in the military and come here and insult our country and our military and the people that fought and died in that war to end evil.
and by ending the war quickly with the bombs, the U.S. could re-built Japan to the democracy country that is today and kept the Soviets out which they would have mop the floor with the civilians since they had already bad blood in previous wars.
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Basically, the JPNese planned to defend against a US invasion and it would involve guerrilla warfare, or the JPNese version of "The People's War".
After the war, we finally learned of Operation Ketsu-go and the attempted palace coup by hard line army officers. The Emperor planned to make a surrender speech after the two A-bombs but also learned of the coup. Palace officials misled those officers and the emperor made the speech.
Even after the two A-bombs, JPNese military leadership was still willing to fight. We also learned that despite the bombing campaign, we missed many of JPN's industrial capabilities because they went underground. The JPNese were building small arms, tanks, and even the famous Zero fighter in underground factories, and the factories were crewed by the elderly and children. We found the JPNese were using refined peanut oil as lubricant for the more advanced weapons.
So in hindsight, if we did not have the A-bombs and used them, definitely the war against JPN would have gone on longer. WW II would officially be ended, but there would have been a bloody occupation of the JPNese home islands for several more yrs. In a tragic way, modern JPN would not be as we know it without the quick surrender ordered by the emperor back then.
To SanJuan:
I am biologically Japanese. I was born in the middle of World War 2. Immediately after the war, my grandfather and father were forced by the US to live permanently in the US because of their technical expertise in certain endeavors ..... they were threatened that if they didn't comply they & their family would be killed. My mother & I were able to move to the US in 1949 in order to be with them. I eventually became a US citizen & after my grandfather died my mother and father moved back to Japan.
From what you wrote, I **KNOW** that you know **NOTHING** about the horrid mistreatment during WW2 of the civilian Japanese population by the Japanese military/police/government. The civilian population were living in extreme fear ......not from the US, but from their own authorities.
SanJuan, my ENTIRE family were there at the time ....they KNOW THE TRUTH...... you only know LIES and DECEIT about the civilian population. You've been brainwashed by the propaganda, and you don't give a damn about that because the brainwashing conforms to your ideology. You think the Japanese military/government/police of the WW2 era equals the "Japanese population". Nope, the civilians were TERRIFIED of the authorities, and powerless to do anything about it. But you'll continue with your LIES won't you SanJuan.
Finally, killing innocent civilians is WICKED & EVIL. Whether one "technically" describes it as a war crime, a crime, killing, eradication, an accident, bad planning, brutal, inhumane etc etc is irrelevant ...... it IS what it IS (the shooting/bombing/killing of INNOCENT CIVILIANS) .... and you couldn't care less.
So. On topic. Im going to say no. War crime tribunals do not occur because of accidents. Its that simple.
Now when we tortured those guys? Yeah, those were some war crimes.
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