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Old 09-26-2021, 11:28 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Meat is murder. Trust me on this one.
so the food chain from bacteria to plankton to tuna to eagles to wolves and lions to humans is somehow a crime against nature?

Killing unborn human babies is murder.

Tell the middle east folks not to eat goats and get back to us.

Archery season is upon us and a years supply of venison is substituted for farm raised meat stock, antibiotics and transportation to markets.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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Meat is murder. Trust me on this one.
With thought processes like yours, mankind would have been extinct eons ago.

Liberalism is, after all a suicide cult which appeals to those who pine for self and national destruction.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: New England
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I don't see people turning vegetarian. We buy what's on sale or a "managers special" (close to the best by date) and we buy in bulk. Then we home can it for two reasons; its pre-cooked and does not need the freezer or refrigerator. Right now there's 27 pounds (each) of pork, lamb, beef, chicken and turkey in the pantry. It's all in ball mason pint jars which hold about one pound each. Enough for two good meals for two people. More if we make a soup or stew.
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Old 09-26-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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I have never seen an old person interviewed that was a vegan. Eating meat is a natural part of humans.
Doing cardiac rehab at 50 will get one's attention. The first lesson was what is a serving of protein. No more than the palm of your hand or a deck of cards. we started out with meatless Mondays.

Then I saw the fish eating chicken chit. And those poor chickens.

My job as a child was to gather the eggs. Granny's chickens had over an acre to wander around on eating whatever bugs had the nerve to come into her garden.

Pinning any animal up so the cannot move, for life, is cruel. I have nothing to do with it.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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I have never known a vegetarian who did so due to cost, but I guess it is possible. Most people who give up meat do so for ethical reasons.
That was me, 30 years ago.

I got out of the service, I was low on money, and Dad suggested beans because that is how the Army ate before WW II when they didn't have much money.

So I had a lot of beans and potatoes in my diet because they were cheap. Operationally, I was eating a lot of vegetarian.

Still eat the beans, sometimes as a meatless stew, sometimes with the meat, but being a Type II has pretty well nyeted the potatoes.
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I hear you.

About a year ago, I saw pictures showing how they slaughter pigs in Thailand or Vietnam. I realize our methods are different (though the animals can suffer a lot before slaughter), but it so sickened me, literally, that I haven't eaten pork since.

I sometimes now think I should give up all meat, including chicken, for ethical reasons. I don't know how we can claim to be animal lovers yet be so indifferent to the suffering of domesticated farm animals. I've given up dairy and feel that eating meat makes me a hypocrite.

Unfortunately, we really don't know enough about the non animal world to say that eating from them is okay because we don't hurt them. When trees in a forest fire signal other trees on the outskirts through chemicals to bring up their defences, then there is more to plants than we think.
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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70% of all mammals on earth are farm animals and that's not good for biodiversity.
Nobody cares, least of all me.
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't think so.
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Old 09-29-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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My daughter is vegetarian and since it's just the two of us (and I don't care if I eat meat or not), I pretty much shop, cook, and eat vegetarian because it makes things easier for me. Anymore, I just eat meat when we go out or when I visit family for dinner.

Anyway, my grocery bill is up too by quite a bit too. So it's not just meat prices that are going up, everything is going up. Buying vegetarian is cheaper, but it's always been cheaper. So if people weren't going veg then for price reasons, I don't see them doing it now. My guess is people will either just buy meat as usual, buy meat but less/eat smaller portions, buying cheaper cuts or stuff on sale, or maybe do the meatless Monday thing.

Weird side note, my daughter is vegetarian because she doesn't like the consistency of meat (she also doesn't like other foods for consistency reasons). For the longest time she would eat ground meat (burger, ground chicken, etc), but after a few under cooked burgers at restaurants, she got turned off that too.
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Old 09-29-2021, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I'm finding alternative sources of protein out of necessity and budgetary reasons.

Canned meats, canned ham, eggs, cheese, beans, pasta, rice.

If you are creative and don't mind cooking you can make some great meals without a big old slab of meat on every plate.

I'm not a vegetarian, nor do I believe it's the healthiest lifestyle, we enjoy meat, but I am not going to pay the ridiculous prices they are asking for it right now.
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:28 PM
 
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No, it is not your imagination that grocery prices have risen a lot since last year.

According to the following https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produc...outlook/prices for meat (etc.) significantly rose from August 2020 to August 2021. (You will need to scroll down and click on the "Changes in Food Price Indexes, 2019-2022, to access the file which is in an Excel format.) These are the percentages of increases for the following categories since last year:

Meats, poultry and fish (overall) +7.9%
Beef and veal: +12.2%
Pork: +9.8%
Poultry: +7.0%
Fish and Seafood: +6.3%

The 20-year historical average for the above categories, btw, is 2.9%.

NOTE: All other food categories are mostly in the 2-3% increase category, except for fats and oils which increased 5.5%.
I think the increases sated are lower than the actual increases.
We have been seeing prices up more than this.
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