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Old 10-01-2021, 11:05 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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They think they were there because they think local news is different than national news at the Capitol, lol.
lol, I know, weird eh?
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Old 10-01-2021, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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lol, I know, weird eh?
It’s amazing
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:21 AM
 
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HE WAS NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL OF US - he doesn't even speak for a plurality never mind a majority.
The idea that Trump speaks for anyone other than himself is a joke. The idea that Trump has true beliefs or any sort of convictions or platform is a laughable fantasy. This is all about the sick joy of getting his ego stroked - he will say anything at any time, in order to feed on the adulation of his devotees. No different from Jim Jones or any other cult leader.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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A friend of mine is a therapist at an asylum for the criminally insane.

Despite being found guilty of committing horrendous murders that
pose them as a direct credible threat to the public, they still beg
and argue to be released.

Found to be criminally insane, they still refuse to believe or understand
that they are not to be trusted to somehow never hurt or maim anyone
ever again. They refuse to face the simple fact about themselves.

I see no difference in Trump, except that he has not been found
guilty of committing a horrific murder. The thought process is
still the same, same logic if you somehow do not see what was wrong
about the documented and proven events that took place on Jan. 6th
and why they occurred, and what led up to it all.
4+ years and $40m+ of a goosechase turned up zilch. If there was something to find it would’ve been found.

Any proof to your Jan. 6 because Trump claims, or just more speculation?
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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Your opinion is not fact. As far as opinions go, the law and the constitution
does not agree with your opinion about Jan. 6 and what in fact Trump did
to create it. The very fact that Trump is no longer president is why our
constitution is upheld over the will of a minority of voters who did not
want to see Trump leave.

You can argue all you want and claim others who do not agree with you
are somehow wrong. Last time I looked, "Berdee" does not have a news
network and "Berdee" was physically not at the event on Jan. 6 to film
the event for posterity. Like I said, argue your heart out, but the majority
of American voters and those in charge do not agree with your opinion.

The factual evidence of what in fact did happen, citizens did in fact try
to overtake the buildings of our government. They did vandalize and they
did so because they were encouraged to do storm the capitol by Trump.
Trump was directly responsible and directly the reason why the chaos
ensued until ordered by force to stop.

Like I said, argue all you want. Your opinion is just that, opinion.

I really do not care what you think of MY opinion. I care about the factual
evidence I witnessed BEFORE Jan. 6th even occurred, when I listened to
Trump spew rhetoric that I myself understood was going to be dangerous.
I had a medical appointment at my local VA that morning, and I live far
away in Texas. I considered cancelling my appointment because I was
concerned Trump's increasing rhetoric was going to encourage someone
to walk into my local VA with a gun as a result. THAT was days before the
Jan. 6th event. I KNEW THAT WHAT TRUMP WAS STATING PUBLICALLY
WAS DANGEROUS RHETORIC MEANT TO INCITE POTENTIAL VIOLENCE!!

Like I said, your opinion is just that. I suspect you would argue if someone
told you that the sky is blue and that grass is green. Does not change FACTS.
Wow, what a diatribe.

Yes, they tried to destroy federal property, much like antifa blm did over the past year. They were wrong to do so , much like antifa blm were wrong to do so. The difference is that many on the right have been saying the Jan 6 crowd and blm antifa were in the wrong to do those things, while many of those on the left were cheering or ignoring the destruction caused by antifa blm while getting upset over the riot on Jan 6. (ya bunch of hypocrites)

Trump incited no one. That is merely a lame talking point from your media and your lefty leaders ... and no, Sicknick was not killed by a fire extinguisher , like your leaders and media worked so hard to make you believe he was.

I look at the whole picture, while you people are afraid, for some reason, to see the whole picture. I spoke of certain events that had happened and you're all having fits over it. We get it, you just do not want to hear about those events, because it puts a damper on your narratives it would seem.

You live far away from DC and yet you feared that you'd be hunted down on that day? wow, that is over the top paranoia. Maybe you should see someone about that.


ps. it's hilarious that you speak of facts when you're spouting nothing but hyperbole. When you finally find a fact, please let someone know.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Yeah, the PROOF is that TRUMP IS NO LONGER THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.

Facts. Again, YOUR OPINION is your opinion only. Sky is blue, grass is green
and storming the capitol apparently is illegal.
The fact that because Trump isn’t the POTUS has zero to do with him being found guilty of anything, as the goosechase turned up zilch.

The fact is that because Trump hasn’t been found to have anything to do with Jan. 6, hence no proof.

Who said “storming the capitol” isn’t illegal?
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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Your opinion is not fact. As far as opinions go, the law and the constitution
does not agree with your opinion about Jan. 6 and what in fact Trump did
to create it. The very fact that Trump is no longer president is why our
constitution is upheld over the will of a minority of voters who did not
want to see Trump leave.

You can argue all you want and claim others who do not agree with you
are somehow wrong. Last time I looked, "Berdee" does not have a news
network and "Berdee" was physically not at the event on Jan. 6 to film
the event for posterity. Like I said, argue your heart out, but the majority
of American voters and those in charge do not agree with your opinion.

The factual evidence of what in fact did happen, citizens did in fact try
to overtake the buildings of our government. They did vandalize and they
did so because they were encouraged to do storm the capitol by Trump.
Trump was directly responsible and directly the reason why the chaos
ensued until ordered by force to stop.

Like I said, argue all you want. Your opinion is just that, opinion.

I really do not care what you think of MY opinion. I care about the factual
evidence I witnessed BEFORE Jan. 6th even occurred, when I listened to
Trump spew rhetoric that I myself understood was going to be dangerous.
I had a medical appointment at my local VA that morning, and I live far
away in Texas. I considered cancelling my appointment because I was
concerned Trump's increasing rhetoric was going to encourage someone
to walk into my local VA with a gun as a result. THAT was days before the
Jan. 6th event. I KNEW THAT WHAT TRUMP WAS STATING PUBLICLY
WAS DANGEROUS RHETORIC MEANT TO INCITE POTENTIAL VIOLENCE!!

Like I said, your opinion is just that. I suspect you would argue if someone
told you that the sky is blue and that grass is green. Does not change FACTS.
Well said, but that does not change one inconvenient fact. The fact is that there is a significant minority in the USA that choose to accept populist dogma over logical reasoning. And that anarchistic minority is exceedingly dangerous to the ongoing stability and even the future existence of our Constitutional Republic.

Historically it can be seen that many failed coups are essentially practice for a future successful coup. Trump came far closer to succeeding the first time than Americans understand or are willing to admit.

Point is that the good guys do not always win, and that rationality does not always prevail over the power of effective propaganda, particularly in the Information age.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:55 AM
 
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The life that I live is all the facts I need to know and believe. Your opinion is just that.
Your opinion. I will trust the facts in my own life that I perceive with my own perception.
You opinion is not facts, stop pretending that it is.


"I will trust the facts in my own life that I perceive with my own perception"
You mean, what you've been told to believe.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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The life that I live is all the facts I need to know and believe. Your opinion is just that.
Your opinion. I will trust the facts in my own life that I perceive with my own perception.
If you have any facts that because Trump had anything to do with Jan. 6, I’m sure the folks that have been chasing him for 4+ years would like to see them.
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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If you have any facts that because Trump had anything to do with Jan. 6, I’m sure the folks that have been chasing him for 4+ years would like to see them.
Yeah they certainly would. They've been chasing that guy for years and have come up with zilch. and that's a "fact".
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