Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: What do people mean when they say "healthcare is a human right"?
You have a right to receive services from of an unpaid doctor. 7 18.92%
You have a right to take money from others to pay your doctor. 30 81.08%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-03-2021, 04:58 AM
Status: "“If a thing loves, it is infinite.”" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Great Britain
27,166 posts, read 13,455,286 times
Reputation: 19459

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by End Game View Post
If you have a right to other peoples' labor, isn't that just slavery?
Only Emergency healthcare is deemed a human right.

As for universal healthcare it is generally paid for through taxes or national insurance, so everyone pays in.

Everyone pays taxes for a lot of things including education, infrastructure, the military, libraries, the police, the fire department etc etc.

It's the same principle, and there are different types of payment schemes in relation to different universal healthcare systems, and some have a mixture of private and public.

So you are really just taking money from your own taxes and are seeing a doctor paid for by taxes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-03-2021, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
14,267 posts, read 6,954,430 times
Reputation: 17878
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
People can get FREE Funerals with Covid funding.



We have Medicaid for Free Healthcare
We have Food Banks for Free food
We have Free Breakfasts, Lunches and Dinners through the Schools
We have Free food through the Food Stamp EBT programs

Of course none of it is “FREE” - Taxpayers PAY for it.
31% PAY the other 69% and it’s unsustainable . Add to that, no matter what they get as “FREE” …

It’s never enough. They want, even demand more,more,more.
Then what would your solution be? Let them starve to death? Raise a bunch of kids who can't learn in school because they are hungry? What would you do?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:02 AM
 
9,504 posts, read 4,340,821 times
Reputation: 10556
Quote:
Originally Posted by erasure View Post
No, that's actually capitalism, when you have a right to "other people's labor."
You don't have the slightest idea what capitalism is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:04 AM
 
9,504 posts, read 4,340,821 times
Reputation: 10556
Quote:
Originally Posted by GABESTA535 View Post
There's a reason why we're the only first world country without universal healthcare and also why we're at the bottom of all the first world healthcare lists....
So what?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:11 AM
 
27,137 posts, read 15,313,785 times
Reputation: 12069
Quote:
Originally Posted by erasure View Post
No, that's actually capitalism, when you have a right to "other people's labor."

Because under the Soviet system for example ( i.e. REAL Socialism) no one was entitled to "other people's labor."

And that's what was essentially keeping the whole private sector shut.

Because it was prohibited to hire other people for private business ( i.e. to use "other people's labor" with the purpose of profits.)
With agreed upon compensation for said labor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:38 AM
 
2,709 posts, read 1,039,695 times
Reputation: 1058
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1UpSuperDuck View Post
I mean if you dig down and happen to come across an underground stream and it is also being used in a villiage further down. Like they discovered it too.


To simplify it more. Your property has a river running through it. You can use it for any purpose so long as it doesn’t negatively affect the people using it down river.


If you build a structure, or if it is underground, then that structure such as a well is yours to use.
One person's rights end where another's begins
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:42 AM
 
2,709 posts, read 1,039,695 times
Reputation: 1058
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Only Emergency healthcare is deemed a human right.

As for universal healthcare it is generally paid for through taxes or national insurance, so everyone pays in.

Everyone pays taxes for a lot of things including education, infrastructure, the military, libraries, the police, the fire department etc etc.

It's the same principle, and there are different types of payment schemes in relation to different universal healthcare systems, and some have a mixture of private and public.

So you are really just taking money from your own taxes and are seeing a doctor paid for by taxes.
Only if you are one of the few unfortunate enough to be paying taxes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
3,560 posts, read 1,653,525 times
Reputation: 6116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Only Emergency healthcare is deemed a human right.
Yep nobody with a chronic disease need apply, borrow a shovel and dig your own grave before you expire....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
2,709 posts, read 1,039,695 times
Reputation: 1058
Quote:
Originally Posted by ansible90 View Post
Then what would your solution be? Let them starve to death? Raise a bunch of kids who can't learn in school because they are hungry? What would you do?
The appropriate solution is to let the people who care support people less fortunate VOLUNTARILY.

Using the threat of violence (force of government) against peaceful people in order to take their stuff and give it to others who didn't earn it is theft.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2021, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
23,862 posts, read 24,108,334 times
Reputation: 15135
Quote:
Originally Posted by erasure View Post
No, that's actually capitalism, when you have a right to "other people's labor."

Because under the Soviet system for example ( i.e. REAL Socialism) no one was entitled to "other people's labor."
.sdrawkcab taht evah uoY
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top