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Old 10-13-2021, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Companies will NOT have access to the CDC databases so they can NEVER verify that CDC card.
The databases aren't even CDC, they're state, Georgia's is called GRITS (har har har). My point is even if an employer began an investigation, they would have to hand it over to law enforcement (Federal or State), and even if Law Enforcement subpoenaed the records (or just flat has access to them), that's still not proof. If someone is stupid enough to broadcast to social media that they faked one, they could use that, but unless a friend or family saw them fake it, anything told to the friend or family would be hearsay. Frankly it seems the only people in the news that have gotten caught are the ones that got caught doing something else (the people I'm thinking of were crossing into Canada and faked the test and the vax card), like faking a test which does have tighter controls, or were advertising a fake card service for others.
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Old 10-13-2021, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Cali
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If you lie to an employer or school about your status, you will be canned.
There are job's and schools where they can go without having to commit fraud.

Just another form of fraud shown by those who refuse to protect themselves and those around them.
As opposed to getting canned for NOT getting the jab?

I am pretty sure a lot of people would rather take the chances of getting fake vax docs
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:00 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The dark web is full of fake EU, CDC, NHS and digital vaccine certificates.
They even sell QR codes.

All this stuff is so easily faked and duplicated.
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Cali
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It's your decision. Fraud and lying on legal documents are not worth it.
If found that you committed fraud or lied when getting a job or applying to a school. The least problem is getting canned. Then explain why, if you were against the requirement, that you committed fraud or lied to get in.
Your argument makes no sense.

So if someone has been working in the same job for 5/10/20 years, now all of the sudden they need to get vaccinated in order to “get in”?

How the hell do they need to “get in” when they have been doing the same job under the same employer for years?
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The databases aren't even CDC, they're state, Georgia's is called GRITS (har har har). My point is even if an employer began an investigation, they would have to hand it over to law enforcement (Federal or State), and even if Law Enforcement subpoenaed the records (or just flat has access to them), that's still not proof. If someone is stupid enough to broadcast to social media that they faked one, they could use that, but unless a friend or family saw them fake it, anything told to the friend or family would be hearsay. Frankly it seems the only people in the news that have gotten caught are the ones that got caught doing something else (the people I'm thinking of were crossing into Canada and faked the test and the vax card), like faking a test which does have tighter controls, or were advertising a fake card service for others.
They would have to access your EHT which supposedly they cannot do without your consent.
As we found out...all states feed into the CDC....for "tracking and reporting and vaccine logistics"

retail -> state -> fed

Supercomputers at the National Labs were redirected to work on the pandemic aspects.
DoD got their own supercomputer to collect data from a multitude of government agencies.
But don't worry...the DoD said they remove your name....ROFL

This is what Obamacare got you..a centralized DB at the Fed level with all our health information.
At the peon level: Oh now you can switch doctors and your digital health record is accessible to your new doctor. No more dragging around papers.
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Old 10-13-2021, 06:18 PM
 
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Your argument makes no sense.

So if someone has been working in the same job for 5/10/20 years, now all of the sudden they need to get vaccinated in order to “get in”?

How the hell do they need to “get in” when they have been doing the same job under the same employer for years?
And with the same COVID status (negative).
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Old 10-14-2021, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Your argument makes no sense.

So if someone has been working in the same job for 5/10/20 years, now all of the sudden they need to get vaccinated in order to “get in”?

How the hell do they need to “get in” when they have been doing the same job under the same employer for years?
Why would you lie to get or keep a job with a requirement you do not believe in. Then, if or when caught you have to explain your lie. At which point how can you as an employee, be trusted by the employer?

What else have you lied about while in that employment.

Fraud and lies are impossible to defend.
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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Why would you lie to get or keep a job with a requirement you do not believe in. Then, if or when caught you have to explain your lie. At which point how can you as an employee, be trusted by the employer?

What else have you lied about while in that employment.

Fraud and lies are impossible to defend.
Calling the crap produced by big pharmaceutical companies "vaccines", and all the governmental bullying and coercion requiring people to get these "vaccines" is the biggest lie and worst fraud that has ever been perpetrated on humanity.

NOVAC
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:43 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Why would you lie to get or keep a job with a requirement you do not believe in. Then, if or when caught you have to explain your lie. At which point how can you as an employee, be trusted by the employer?

What else have you lied about while in that employment.

Fraud and lies are impossible to defend.
You are exactly right. Those are not characteristics of trustworthiness. Conservatives brought us "at-will" employment with all of its perils plus "personal responsibility". Now they need to step up and own those concepts.

Last edited by Jowel; 10-14-2021 at 08:58 PM..
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Old 10-14-2021, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Cali
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You are exactly right. Those are not characteristics of trustworthiness. Conservatives brought us "at-will" employment with all of its perils plus "personal responsibility". Now they need to step up and own those concepts.
“At will” employer, huh?

Pro tip: when the Big Brother forces “at will” employer to make their employees get the vax or face termination, then it is no longer “at will” employer.

This is no different than Big Brother mandates/forces employers to not hire black people, then blame it on employers for not hiring black people.
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