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Old 10-16-2021, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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In life, there are many "red flag" circumstances that arise within relationships; business dealings; etc.
that don't feel quite right. When ignored, failure occurs.

There are many RED FLAGS that seem obvious to me with this "pandemic", so I'll start with my #1 that I think defies logic:

The "vaccines" DO NOT prevent INFECTION or SPREADING of the virus.

What have you noticed?

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Old 10-16-2021, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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The biggest red flag for me has been the way they've pushed this on people as though their lives depended on it. Vaccines have not allowed us to return to normal, as promised. They have not allowed us to lose the masks, as promised, and it's clear now that the numbers of deaths reported have been inflated and were wrong - which many of us knew last year.

Something is really off about this.
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think everything is business as usual.

This is how government operates. We’re just much more connected via technology than we were in the last 2 major events (2008 crash, 9/11).
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:37 PM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere... and enjoying it
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"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."

Rahm Emanuel

Just look at all the things they could never have gotten away with before the wuflu.
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:49 PM
 
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Fauci predicted the pandemic in 2017.

The virus was obviously created for nefarious purposes, yet people are climbing over each other to obey the ones in charge. They ask no questions.

They talk out both sides of their mouths and the people still believe in what they say.

They constantly lie and the people excuse it.
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Old 10-16-2021, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7 View Post
In life, there are many "red flag" circumstances that arise within relationships; business dealings; etc.
that don't feel quite right. When ignored, failure occurs.

There are many RED FLAGS that seem obvious to me with this "pandemic", so I'll start with my #1 that I think defies logic:

The "vaccines" DO NOT prevent INFECTION or SPREADING of the virus.

What have you noticed?
Redflagging the first “RED FLAG”: the vaccines do prevent infection, but they do not prevent infection by the Delta variant as well as the Alpha because it didn’t exist when the vaccines were made. I think people are under the mistaken assumption that something is not a vaccine if it doesn’t stop 100% of infections. That’s simply not true and can be observed in many popular vaccines, including the flu shot and the shingles vaccine. Studies show that it is between 40%-60% effective against the delta variant. A lot better than 0% and the protection against severe disease is in the high 90% range.

As for transmission, they don’t prevent all transmission of the virus, but they certainly reduce it.

I’m actually going to provide some sources, unlike you did:

About the effectiveness of the vaccines:

Some early findings by the New England Journal of Medicine: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

More recent, with plenty of data to back it up:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...-suggests.aspx

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01548-7

This abstract of a study on PubMed has links to many other similar studies:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34289274/

This article shows a drop from 90% effectiveness against the alpha strain to 60% against the delta strain:
https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/24/...one-key-study/

https://covid.immune.org.nz/covid-19...on-and-vaccine

Regarding Transmissibility, there isn’t much research available on this topic, and there is even less evidence that the vaccines don’t significantly reduce transmission. If they are preventing illness, it makes sense that they would also be preventing transmission. Here’s what I could find in the amount of time I was able to justify for this:

Notice the third highlight and scroll down for how they arrived at those conclusions:

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...pdf?sc_lang=en

Evidence of greatly reduced transmission among vaccinated individuals: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....14.21264959v1

Vaccinated are less likely to spread COVID, but effectiveness against transmission wanes with time:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...finds-n1280583

Pfizer less effective at reducing transmission compared to Moderna:
https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/a...t-16380022.php

I’ve had to use two news websites as references for the transmissibility section because that kind of research is difficult and takes time. There are far less studies compared to vaccine effectiveness and we’ll have to wait to see what the final word on is on transmissibility.
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The point of vaccines is to minimize then impact covid has on your body. So you can live through it. More people vaxxed=more people that can live through catching covid.
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So the government now cares about people living? If that were the case, cancer treatment would be free.
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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It's being used as A Political Weapon.

If you don't Vax - YOU WILL LOSE YOUR JOB.
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Alright, my next example would be the official published long term side effects:

NOT AVAILABLE
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Old 10-16-2021, 08:02 PM
 
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A red flag is always based on mandates and control. We allowed it.. So let it happen. No sympathy is deserved. Can't fix stupid unfortunately
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