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Rich people can not just "opt" out of it.. Even though GreatDay claims he has, that is no longer an option for individuals...
Yes, it is. One would merely have to go through the same process. The vast majority of people would have to commit fraud in order to accomplish it successfully...
Education? You mean "indoctrination" classes. A better job? What?! Maybe working for the government?!
We all know the goverment is the leading job sector nowadays.
I would agree with the Education suggestion.
Today, there is an ever increasing need for people in the Medical field, technology, Sciences etc
There are many higher paying jobs out there to be had. One needs to have the desire to better themselves first. Then, they need to get the educational skills to get those jobs
And there are more jobs in private industry than there are in Government.
I cant think of ONE promise they have kept... The liberals dont seem to care though.. they got "control" woo hoo.. nevermind the fact that they have done nothing with the control.
What's the minimum wage again? Isn't that higher than what it was? Wasn't that one of the things? Given that this was a widely publicized news event not very long ago, I can't help but wonder if all this inability to think of one doesn't suggest some sort of flaw in some thought processes...
What's the minimum wage again? Isn't that higher than what it was? Wasn't that one of the things? Given that this was a widely publicized news event not very long ago, I can't help but wonder if all this inability to think of one doesn't suggest some sort of flaw in some thought processes...
No - I don't believe the minimum wage was one of the things they promised (could be wrong though) -
But, assuming it is, what else did the Democrats do to fulfill their promised changes?
I used to be a hard-core socialist, until I saw what the welfare system put my family through and how it's psychologically rotted the core of many communites.
There's nothing wrong with "socialism" per say, but the social decline it generates is the real problem. Katrina exposed what generations of government dependance does to the human psyche and it is not a pretty picture. I do believe we should help the poor and suffering, as I'm on government programs myself! But what sets myself apart from the attitudes of other people in my position is that I realize that this is not a lifestyle choice and I am activley working to get off of it. I have never known a life without government assistance, and as a result, my family simply expects "Manna from the sky" if-you-will every month. This line of thinking insiduously eats away at the natural bonds between family members as the prevaliing attitude is one of "I don't have to do anything, the government will". So I grew up emotionally and pyschologically neglected, and I still feel the reprecussions of that to this day.
To me, socialism is like drugs. It feels good for a while, but it sucks you in and traps you in a cycle of fear and dependance. When you don't know what it's like to stand on your own two feet, or even see family members do it, it leaves you in an incredible psychological lurch. I am trying my best to overcome this hurtle, but in the end, it is a terrible feeling. Conservatives stand on their own two feet, and feel proud of their accomplishments, hence are happier. Notice how the Liberals here can't type one sentance without attacking someone. My mom is a classic liberal. Everything is someone else's fault and she expects someone else to do the heavy lifting. When we fell homeless due to the government's malfesance, I, even as a youngster, "got it". My mom never did. Hence, I navigate this world alone. And hence, I am a conservative.
The Great Society is/has been a great failure. At least that's how I see it.....
I'll vouch for everything you have said Shizzles and give you a standing ovation for saying it so brilliantly and being so honest.
They (libs) may get control for awhile but like France and England people will get tired of their crap and vote them out... It's just a cycle. The key is makeing a profit during the confusion of their control......
By you. Your tendency toward evasiveness is of course understandable. When you don't have an answer, fake something. Not bad so far on SS...but I'm watching...
And I've faked what exactly? Another accusation without anything to back it up..
No - I don't believe the minimum wage was one of the things they promised (could be wrong though) -
But, assuming it is, what else did the Democrats do to fulfill their promised changes?
Yes it was one of their agenda items. It also was the only thing that was checked off their to do list.
And it is actually a good thing. Businesses can hire fewer people, but since they have to pay a higher wage, they get a better selection of a bit more productive people for those that are hired. It's called competition. So it all works out in the end.
Yes it was one of their agenda items. It also was the only thing that was checked off their to do list.
And it is actually a good thing. Businesses can hire fewer people, but since they have to pay a higher wage, they get a better selection of a bit more productive people for those that are hired. It's called competition. So it all works out in the end.
Actually employers simply cut benefits, and/or have them work less hours, and replaced some of them with computers...
While that "works out in the end" to some, because government will pickup the tab, and then tax the extra wages, I cant see the positive its had on the work force. Less benefits, less hours, being replaced? Nah, somehow I'd prefer people working, producing, to the point umemployment numbers go into the negative, and let the supply dictate higher wages..
Well I would disagree that liberalism is the root cause of our failures. I wish the world were so simple as to be able to point at something and say, "that is why", but life just isn't that simple. I would go even as far as to say that our tendency as a society to constantly externalize blame is as great as any other cause for what is ailing us.
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That is the liberal view: You aren't responsible for anything, it is always someone else's fault.
Unemployment insurance did not exist prior to the 1930s, so how did people survive before that?
You had your family and your community and your church. They knew you, and they knew what kind of person you were, and they were right there to help. Always. And yes, there were separate communities, black and white, and within the white community it was even broken down by ethnic group, but it doesn't change the fact that people in your family and community were there to help, and their help was faster, and more effective, than the government could ever hope to provide.
You think Hurricane Katrina was the first hurricane to ever hit the US? You couldn't be more wrong. Who helped before FEMA existed? The community. Its help was always faster, more effective, and more responsive, if for no other reason than the fact that it was personal.
I don't know if you realized this or not but your opening response just proved my point. Now while you may claim it IS the liberal view, the whole point was to note the externalization of blame. You, who are obviously something other than a liberal start out with externalizing your blame by stating once again, "Its the liberals".
After many years of being engaged in the politik, I have come to one conclusion and that is that no single political philosophy holds the key to glory of the empire. Making choices as to which political philosophy addresses a given subject or topic is further obscured by peoples tendency to grossly over simplify everything down to black and white. While it may suffice for rudimentary and obvious problems, it diminishes the individuals need to critically think about any given subject, as all one has to do is lean up against the wall of his politik of choice, reach out with a finger and blame the opposition while espousing their Parties talking points from the script. While it may look good in a bar full of bluntskulls it serves to keep people from having to think and come to their own conclusions. We end up with a general public (the masses) of people who are little more than a dull form of an exotic parrot who sits in a cage repeating Polly wants a cracker and it is all their fault...
The OP in this thread states that according to the piece that is linked, that conservatives are a dying breed. Now, outside of the rise of social conservatism during the 1980's(to which I would also argue the level of "conservative" these folks were and are) just how in the past 20 years has American politics been conservative, true to the traditional definition of the term?
I have seen the rise of "Republicanism" to which many claim to be conservative, yet when faced with what it actually entails to be conservative, most just don't measure up, other than they have a copy of the script. I'm not sure how one derives, expansion, empire, fiscal irresponsibility, erosion of liberty, and moral decay with Websters definition of conservative. Maybe I was a sleep and the definition of the word simply morphed, as this does happen in the English language?
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