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Old 11-06-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Mail-in ballots have to be POSTMARKED by Election Day and received by November 8, so it's not really practical to count them first.
Yeah but why can't the ones received prior to Election Day not be counted? I think the law with not being allowed to open them until Election Day may need another look.
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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Much ado about nothing.
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:16 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Agreed, this would reduce any doubts about the integrity of the process.
Did you ever stop to think maybe they don't want you to trust the process? Maybe they want doubts about integrity to keep the republicans whining about how unfair it is when they lose, as it diminishes them. It also gives the dems cover for when they do have to cheat. They can just say the republicans always whine when they lose and this time is no different. Plus the questionable circumstances always break in their favor so why would they want that to stop?
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Hmm. I guess dominion finally corrected their software issue in New Jersey that caused the loss in Virginia.
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Old 11-06-2021, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Yeah but why can't the ones received prior to Election Day not be counted? I think the law with not being allowed to open them until Election Day may need another look.
Are you sure that's the case? It doesn't sound so in this article, but it doesn't specifically address that, either. However, it sounds as if they are looked at in advance for the signature comparison.

Eons ago, mid 70s, actually, I worked part-time for the Bergen County Board of Elections comparing signatures on what were then called "absentee ballots" to the application for the ballot. Most people submitting such ballots were shut-ins who could not get out to vote or people who would not be in the state. A Democrat and a Republican had to be sitting together to compare the signatures. I got the job but I had to register as a Republican because they had more Democrats than Republicans doing the work and they needed Republicans (which was what my father was. I really didn't care or know the difference at the time.)

But I don't recall that we actually tallied the votes--just compared the signatures. Then I filed them according to town. Got paid $3 an hour, above minimum at the time, woot woot.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/11/...-changing.html
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Old 11-06-2021, 05:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Are you sure that's the case? It doesn't sound so in this article, but it doesn't specifically address that, either. However, it sounds as if they are looked at in advance for the signature comparison.

Eons ago, mid 70s, actually, I worked part-time for the Bergen County Board of Elections comparing signatures on what were then called "absentee ballots" to the application for the ballot. Most people submitting such ballots were shut-ins who could not get out to vote or people who would not be in the state. A Democrat and a Republican had to be sitting together to compare the signatures. I got the job but I had to register as a Republican because they had more Democrats than Republicans doing the work and they needed Republicans (which was what my father was. I really didn't care or know the difference at the time.)

But I don't recall that we actually tallied the votes--just compared the signatures. Then I filed them according to town. Got paid $3 an hour, above minimum at the time, woot woot.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/11/...-changing.html
Yes, it looks like the outer envelopes are opened prior to Election Day for verification.

According to the Secretary of State's website, the actual ballots can be opened on Election Day:

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NJSA 19:63-22 Opening of mail-in ballots
22. On the day of each election each county board of elections shall open in the presence of the commissioner of registration, or the designee thereof, the inner envelopes that contain the mail-in ballots with the votes cast for the election. The inner envelopes containing the ballots that the board or the Superior Court has rejected shall not be so opened, but shall be retained as provided for by this act. The board shall then proceed to canvass the votes cast on the mail-in ballots, but no such ballot shall be counted in any primary election for the general election if the ballot of the political party marked for voting thereon differs from the designation of the political party in the primary election of which such ballot is intended to be voted as marked on the envelope by the county board of elections.
https://nj.gov/state/dos-statutes-el...ml#ele_19_62_2

Last year was an exception due to COVID but I am guessing the procedures reverted back to the old rules for this election.
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Old 11-06-2021, 05:56 PM
 
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So I wonder how many people here posting about it has called their representatives to demand an investigation?
Also, if there is nefarious activity going on, why are measures never put into place to stop it, and arrest those involved?



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Old 11-06-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Why do mail-in ballots always have to be tabulated in the overnight hours? If anything, they should have been the first to be counted because they were received ahead of time.
The majority Republican legislature in Pennsylvania prohibited county boards of elections from counting the mail ballots until after the polls had closed at 8 p.m.
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