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The Toll Operations Division (TOD) is responsible for developing, operating, and maintaining TxDOT owned toll roads. TxDOT currently operates approximately 208 centerline miles of toll roads in the Austin (Central Texas Turnpike System), Houston (Grand Parkway/SH 99 and SH 249), and Dallas & Ft. Worth regions.
Guess I’ll stick with my carbureted, non-computerized vehicle and go live in the woods. I’m done with this society and the complete hatred of freedom.
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I agree with your basic premise of user pays, BUT I have a feeling that given the federal government's track record they will be more New York than New Jersey. And since every president seems to think our infrastructure is falling apart, it appears I'm correct.
Texas has privately operated tollways that are excellent btw so I suppose that's also an option (get government out of it altogether).
People in Texas don't like the toll roads, and are trying to get bills passed in the Texas State House to turn them into "free" roads
The Toll Operations Division (TOD) is responsible for developing, operating, and maintaining TxDOT owned toll roads. TxDOT currently operates approximately 208 centerline miles of toll roads in the Austin (Central Texas Turnpike System), Houston (Grand Parkway/SH 99 and SH 249), and Dallas & Ft. Worth regions.
They're a private public partnership, Cintra I think is the bondholder for most of them
No I want people who use the roads the most to pay the most for the upkeep. Should the people who drive 3000 miles a year pay as much as people who drive 20,000 miles a year? Some states already base registration on vehicle size and miles driven.
Also tolls only impact the users. Some states manage the system well (New Jersey for example) and some states completely drop the ball (New York).
Everyone will be paying..even if you don't drive.
Do you think the supply chain (all those various stops along the way from cow to supermarket beef) is going to eat that tax themselves ? NOPE...each of them will pass that tax on to their cusomer.
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Everyone will be paying..even if you don't drive.
Do you think the supply chain (all those various stops along the way from cow to supermarket beef) is going to eat that tax themselves ? NOPE...each of them will pass that tax on to their cusomer.
That already happens, or do you think that fuel taxes should be eliminated entirely? You don’t seem to understand that there is no free lunch here
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LMAO. They'll suddenly "like" them again when the free roads start falling apart
Note to poster, when Texans originally approved these toll roads back in the 1970s and 1980s, they were told that they would become free of use/freeways once the toll bonds were paid in full.
That only happened with one of them, the former Dallas-Ft Worth Turnpike (now the Tom Landry Freeway), which became free of use in 1997. A good chunk of the voters feel they were bait and switched when it comes to others, especially the Sam Houston Tollway and Hardy Toll Road
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Should the people who drive 3000 miles a year pay as much as people who drive 20,000 miles a year? Some states already base registration on vehicle size and miles driven.
