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Old 11-08-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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It can be a clue. A good or bad one. But garbage in garbage out, depending on the grouping of included studies.
Instead of being vague, let's be specific.

What's wrong with the grouping of studies?

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Database of all ivermectin COVID-19 studies. 128 studies, 83 peer reviewed, 65 with results comparing treatment and control groups.
And it's updated in real time. If a meta-analysis is done, peer reviewed, and one of those studies they used is pulled, it's then outdated unlike this one.

All studies listed.
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Old 11-08-2021, 04:51 PM
 
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There are no deaths from the proper use of Ivermectin however that have been thousands of deaths from the vaccines.
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:19 PM
 
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Instead of being vague, let's be specific.

What's wrong with the grouping of studies?



And it's updated in real time. If a meta-analysis is done, peer reviewed, and one of those studies they used is pulled, it's then outdated unlike this one.

All studies listed.
I'll let you do all the work. I believe that ivermectin has some use in some selected patients presenting early. No panacea, but safe. The overall outlook based on a multitude of studies and IMO is that is of some benefit.
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:21 PM
 
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I'll let you do all the work. I believe that ivermectin has some use in some selected patients presenting early. No panacea, but safe. The overall outlook based on a multitude of studies and IMO is that is of some benefit.
Well then we're in agreement. I believe it's safe and has benefit. And best of all, can be combined with other treatments or vaccinations.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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People have shown you a lot of data that ivermectin works for Covid and you have ignored all of it. There is no point in even trying to discuss it with you.
Low quality studies are not evidence that Ivermectin has significant benefits against COVID. Try again.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Low quality studies are not evidence that Ivermectin has significant benefits against COVID. Try again.
Your opinion on what constitutes a low quality study is suspect, since the studies you presented were all low quality (some were terrible, and admitted it) and 4/6 showed benefit of IVM, so you didn't even read them or don't know how to read.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:49 AM
 
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When you quote someone’s opinion give a source.

Meta Analysis is the bedrock of EBM:

https://c19ivermectin.com/

You cannot explain that result by chance.

Either there as a IVM cabal that includes 100s of scientists across dozens of countries or it works.
That link is not a meta-analysis. This site is nothing but pseudoscience with a bunch of errors and meaningless figures and forest plots.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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That link is not a meta-analysis. This site is nothing but pseudoscience with a bunch of errors and meaningless figures and forest plots.
So you don’t know what meta Analysis means?
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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Your opinion on what constitutes a low quality study is suspect, since the studies you presented were all low quality (some were terrible, and admitted it) and 4/6 showed benefit of IVM, so you didn't even read them or don't know how to read.
This in not my opinion. It is a FACT that we have no HIGH quality studies showing SIGNIFICANT benefit of using Ivermectin. You still have failed multiple times to provide any data showing otherwise.
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Old 11-09-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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This in not my opinion. It is a FACT that we have no HIGH quality studies showing SIGNIFICANT benefit of using Ivermectin. You still have failed multiple times to provide any data showing otherwise.
Learn what fact and opinion means.
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