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Old 11-09-2021, 06:38 PM
 
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And if they end up sick, they should stay out of any hospital receiving taxpayer $$.
Why?
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:43 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Why?
He thinks doctors should not treat patients who require health care due to that patient's personal behavior and his or her life choices. Which of course, would necessitate not treating about 95% of all those who become ill.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:46 PM
 
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And if they end up sick, they should stay out of any hospital receiving taxpayer $$.
As well as other sick people who didn’t live a healthy lifestyle, no heart attack victims, no diabetes patients, no drug overdose patients, no car accident patients who were speeding etc….

You do know the more patients hospitals has the more money they make. Why not put a star on them and put them in a ghetto or interment camps. Why not add those who didn’t get the flu shots (people do die from the flu) while we’re at it, don’t treat those who accidentally shot themselves or shot while trying to kill a cop.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:17 PM
 
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As well as other sick people who didn’t live a healthy lifestyle, no heart attack victims, no diabetes patients, no drug overdose patients, no car accident patients who were speeding etc….
Your proposal generally makes sense. However not everyone with these ailments do not live an unhealthy lifestyle. There's a difference between a a 95 year old having a heart attack or diabetes vs a 40 year old who is obese.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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What is 20 times .014% ?

I love the way statistics are manipulated for maximum impact. There was a local advertisement on the radio awhile back that said something like, "Four times as many youth have died of the delta variant."

"Four times as many" is used SOLELY as a propaganda device for maximum impact on the listener. If the actual numbers were broadcast, it really wouldn't have much of an impact on the listener. Because the actual numbers are MINISCULE compared to the population, even if they are four times higher than they were. It's like saying four times as many people were hit with a meteorite. What's the actual number? Well... let's see... it was three people out of three hundred fifty million... now it is twelve people out of three hundred fifty million.

Many years ago, there was a book called "How to Lie With Statistics." EVERYONE needs to read that book. It was the first book required in the undergrad math/statistics program at my old university. Intro to Statistics 110... you read that book first.
Only one number matters - the one you loved died from covid.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:26 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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At this point, people have made their choice. If they don’t want to be vaccinated, let them be.
We are usually on opposite sides, but I agree with you here.

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And if they end up sick, they should stay out of any hospital receiving taxpayer $$.
FGS, we treat illegals in the ER on taxpayer money...but you would deny care to your fellow citizens? What is wrong with you?!

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Only one number matters - the one you loved died from covid.
Or if your loved one dies from the vaccine.

Sometimes there are only less bad choices.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:28 PM
 
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FGS, we treat illegals in the ER on taxpayer money...but you would deny care to your fellow citizens? What is wrong with you?!
Exactly....not to mention the unvaxxed patients who end up in the hospital are most likely also taxpayers. That argument is just pure spite, it's not even about money.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:29 PM
 
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but you would deny care to your fellow citizens? What is wrong with you?!
I never said deny care to citizens. I said don't spend taxpayer money on people who don't follow guidance that (according to the OP) shows a 20x reduction in death.
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:33 PM
 
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I never said deny care to citizens. I said don't spend taxpayer money on people who don't follow guidance that (according to the OP) shows a 20x reduction in death.
20 x nothing = nothing.

Or did you not look at the baseline?

It's a BS stat for fear propaganda.

I have a penny. Someone gave me 20 more. I'm 20x richer!!!! Where's the Audi dealership? Imma buy myself a fanzee car!!!

Is that how it works?
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Old 11-09-2021, 07:34 PM
 
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Your proposal generally makes sense. However not everyone with these ailments do not live an unhealthy lifestyle. There's a difference between a a 95 year old having a heart attack or diabetes vs a 40 year old who is obese.
Maybe, but quite a few are there because of a unhealthy lifestyle, my daughter is a RN, and she worked with obese patients who had are sick, drug addicts. She will take care of them, because one it’s her job, two they are humans and sick and she said it isn’t her job to judge them.
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