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Old 11-12-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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Who cares If they are mild symptoms or none. The vaccine did it's job
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Do you say the same about 'government control' regarding seatbelt or drunk driving laws?
I've debunked this argument few times on here, and I'm not in mood to argue again. Do a search.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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We've more than seen evidence of the vaccines working at this point. It's not debatable that they are effective. The story in the OP is just further proof of their effectiveness.
What you are trying to say is that because people got the "vaccine" and still got COVID it is considered effective because they didn't end up in the Hospital or Die.

One has to wonder how the vaccine pushers can make statements defending its effectiveness without totally laughing at the insanity of where they have gone in their pretzel twisting to try and justify the agenda. Just look at what the Federal Government had to do...they had to change the definition of a vaccine.

It is generally accepted that the COVID "vaccines" can reduce the severity of symptoms in some people, and likely have helped many, especially among the older population. But that doesn't mean it is "effective". As you can still spread COVID and can still catch COVID if vaccinated...as we see in this article and time and time again.

Then trying to call this "effective" to the point where people want to force others to get a "vaccine" that has had no studies on the long-term effects is where the issue lies with many.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Who cares If they are mild symptoms or none. The vaccine did it's job
You cannot say that with any confidence. Those are healthy students to begin with and may have weathered covid just fine with no vaccine.

They got sick in spite of a vaccine marketed to be 95% effective at PREVENTING covid.

The flu vaccine at 40% does a better job.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What part of you can still get Covid but it won't kill you with your vaccine do you not understand?
If this is the intent then why do others care so much if I get Vaccinated? I don't understand. At my job they are forcing us to get vaccinated to make the work place safer? How does it actually make it safer if you can still get Covid and pass it on? This is a slippery slope. What if all jobs started requiring use to use condoms at home no mater what so that you want get an STD? I feel the same way about seat belt laws and helmet laws. Let me decide if I want to be safe or not as long as it doesn't affect someone else.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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What you are trying to say is that because people got the "vaccine" and still got COVID it is considered effective because they didn't end up in the Hospital or Die.

One has to wonder how the vaccine pushers can make statements defending its effectiveness without totally laughing at the insanity of where they have gone in their pretzel twisting to try and justify the agenda. Just look at what the Federal Government had to do...they had to change the definition of a vaccine.

It is generally accepted that the COVID "vaccines" can reduce the severity of symptoms in some people, and likely have helped many, especially among the older population. But that doesn't mean it is "effective". As you can still spread COVID and can still catch COVID if vaccinated...as we see in this article and time and time again.

Then trying to call this "effective" to the point where people want to force others to get a "vaccine" that has had no studies on the long-term effects is where the issue lies with many.
To be clear, my understanding from the article is we don't know their exact conditions as of now. And while there are no reports of severe cases, remember it generally takes a few days for severe cases to materialize and this just happened.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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What you are trying to say is that because people got the "vaccine" and still got COVID it is considered effective because they didn't end up in the Hospital or Die.

One has to wonder how the vaccine pushers can make statements defending its effectiveness without totally laughing at the insanity of where they have gone in their pretzel twisting to try and justify the agenda. Just look at what the Federal Government had to do...they had to change the definition of a vaccine.

It is generally accepted that the COVID "vaccines" can reduce the severity of symptoms in some people, and likely have helped many, especially among the older population. But that doesn't mean it is "effective". As you can still spread COVID and can still catch COVID if vaccinated...as we see in this article and time and time again.

Then trying to call this "effective" to the point where people want to force others to get a "vaccine" that has had no studies on the long-term effects is where the issue lies with many.

Of course it's effective. Most people who are in the hospital are the unvaccinated
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:32 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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We've more than seen evidence of the vaccines working at this point. It's not debatable that they are effective. The story in the OP is just further proof of their effectiveness.
You have ZERO evidence.

The risk of hospitalization/dying is 1:202 or .49%

Those players were not old, fat or sick so their chances of mild covid were pretty high to begin with.

Actually this is evidence of the vaccines NOT working and so the great unwashed (unvaccinated) should be left alone.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:34 AM
 
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I agree the players don't have a high chance of dying.

But they do run a risk of getting a bad case where they get long haul symptoms.

Goodness, it's not all about dying here
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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You have ZERO evidence.

The risk of hospitalization/dying is 1:202 or .49%

Those players were not old, fat or sick so their chances of mild covid were pretty high to begin with.

Actually this is evidence of the vaccines NOT working and so the great unwashed (unvaccinated) should be left alone.
He/she is trying to make an argument that the independent variable A-- Covid shots, prevented a dependent variable B--serious cases among kids/college crowd, when in fact variable B was almost non-existent prior to the introduction of variable A.

If that makes sense to any of you, or if any of that is "science", well then I need to renounce my PhD immediately.
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