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Old 11-20-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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So what? We do weight voting here. It’s called the Senate and the electoral college.
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Old 11-20-2021, 06:48 PM
 
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This is where we're headed. Every day I wake up more outraged than the day before.
Yep. I'm going to find another society to live in within the next year or two.
I'd leave right now, if I could.
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Old 11-20-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Do you guys just trawl the internet looking for anything “leftist” or “woke” to gripe about, even when it doesn’t affect you at all?
A very quick check of your posting history shows that you have commented on a number of threads about issues that do not concern Canada. So why does it seem to bother you if we American posters are commenting on a thread that doesn't directly concern our country?
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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You support racists. Most Democrats support racists.

As a teacher I see the racism of Democrats being made systemic all the time.

As someone who opposes racism it matters to me.


The fact that you accept racism like most Democrats, it makes me confident in my new found opposition to national healthcare. When leftists creep systemic racism into a national healthcare system you will smugly accept it.
What a moronic suggestion you make when you suggest my refuting your suggestion that a decision taken by a small section of a union to attribute more value to individual votes - ala the American Constitution provision of American Electoral College assigning a higher value to lower vote counts is akin to acceptance of racism.

I have not indicated acceptance of that decision in any of my posts and challenge you to quote the post where I did.

I am against the rather silly and groundless assumption that vote will result in a wide-spread acceptance of the practice anywhere and would therefore impact on the administration of any national healthcare system in any jurisdiction allowing it.

The U.S. has had a system in place for hundreds of years of assigning higher values to votes from lessor numbers. Debate the reason all you like but you cannot debate it's being a fact.
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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So what? We do weight voting here. It’s called the Senate and the electoral college.
BINGO! And is it considered racist? Even if the states most obviously affected are predominantly one shade of the colour spectrum?
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:29 PM
 
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What a moronic suggestion you make when you suggest my refuting your suggestion that a decision taken by a small section of a union to attribute more value to individual votes - ala the American Constitution provision of American Electoral College assigning a higher value to lower vote counts is akin to acceptance of racism.

I have not indicated acceptance of that decision in any of my posts and challenge you to quote the post where I did.

I am against the rather silly and groundless assumption that vote will result in a wide-spread acceptance of the practice anywhere and would therefore impact on the administration of any national healthcare system in any jurisdiction allowing it.

The U.S. has had a system in place for hundreds of years of assigning higher values to votes from lessor numbers. Debate the reason all you like but you cannot debate it's being a fact.
You've had what? Seven posts in this thread and you haven't once blasted the systemic racism being implemented by your fellow leftists.

As a teacher, I see leftists push for systemic racist policies frequently. This isn't a one off. This is a trend for the left to push to institutionalize their racism.

The fact that you tacitly support this racism is why I can no longer support a national healthcare system. Leftists will push their racist policies in healthcare and you will smugly attack those who complain and tacitly accept it.

It'd be nice if you were anti-racist.
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:51 PM
 
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The states aren’t people, so your argument holds no water. Remember, we are a nation made of states that have agreed to be a part of the union given certain criteria. The electoral college is one of them and for good reason. The coasts operate far differently and have different needs than the middle states. Its called balancing the power which is very much In America’s DNA.
Oooopsy; not so fast there; that DNA was extracted and replaced with a less than altruistic system:

https://time.com/4558510/electoral-c...story-slavery/

"Enter the 12th Amendment, which allowed each party to designate one candidate for president and a separate candidate for vice president. The amendment’s modifications of the electoral process transformed the Framers’ framework, enabling future presidential elections to be openly populist and partisan affairs featuring two competing tickets. It is the 12th Amendment’s Electoral College system, not the Philadelphia Framers’, that remains in place today. If the general citizenry’s lack of knowledge had been the real reason for the Electoral College, this problem was largely solved by 1800. So why wasn’t the entire Electoral College contraption scrapped at that point?"

And, of far more controversy:

https://theconversation.com/electora...y-shows-142600

"Now, the founders’ only remaining justification for the Electoral College is structural racism.

Though the Electoral College has changed since it was first used to elect George Washington to the presidency in 1789, my research shows that the system continues to give more power to states whose populations are whiter and more racially resentful."


Attributing the current form of Electoral College to a DNA dictated balancing of power is perhaps not the best description you could have used.
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:58 PM
 
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Is there a legal definition for a POC?

Race is a social construct right?
A white guy I knew in college (I graduated from high school in the 70s), who might have made it in anyway, lied on his Yale Medical School application (citing whatever Native American ancestry he felt was necessary), and he got in.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Some people need to spend a long time in a locked psych facility.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:04 PM
 
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You've had what? Seven posts in this thread and you haven't once blasted the systemic racism being implemented by your fellow leftists.

As a teacher, I see leftists push for systemic racist policies frequently. This isn't a one off. This is a trend for the left to push to institutionalize their racism.

The fact that you tacitly support this racism is why I can no longer support a national healthcare system. Leftists will push their racist policies in healthcare and you will smugly attack those who complain and tacitly accept it.

It'd be nice if you were anti-racist.
Why would I blast something as 'systemic racism' when it is only your assessment stating that?

The fact that I have neither "tacitly" nor specifically stated support for whatever vote - but - instead took issue with only your silly suggestion it would become both endemic world-wide and a reason to refuse any national healthcare system seems totally lost on you.

Also: with all of your bluster about what you think constitutes overt racism, you've done nothing to convince anyone on here you're the least bit anti-racist yourself. Accusing others is a well known ploy to deflect - "look over there; he's got a lawn jockey, he must be a racist."

You are a bigger part of the problem than you are claiming to be for any solution.
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