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Old 07-08-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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I am a Libertarian. I believe people should be strongly encouraged to wear a mask by other citizens up the POTUS. But not mandatory.

Not wearing a mask or doing hard core drugs can harm you and those around you. Yet many Republicans defend not wearing a mask as a right but believe those who are found with drugs (cocaine, meth, etc) on them even if its smaller amounts should be pulled off the streets or out of their home and put in prison.

And just to get this out of the way. Most of the crime comes from drugs being illegal. There is an underground market that attracts violence and criminal activity. It also keeps prices higher in which junkies have to steal to feed their habit. And I am talking drug addicts not drug dealers who I don't agree have a right to sell drugs on the streets.

If putting people in prison simply for possessing drugs is for societal good as many conservatives say, then is not mask wearing also for societal good and any constitutional rights of a drug addict or non mask wearer be not important?

I am not saying being a drug addict is a good thing just that should it not be a personal right like not wearing a mask?
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Statism is one hypocritical paradigm.

The cognitive dissonance would drive me insane.
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Where there are hard drugs, there is crime. Drugs breed crime. Just look at South Chicago.


Where there are no masks, there is no crime. It's just a personal choice.
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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If hardcore drug use only affected the user, I'd have no problem with letting people rock out so to speak . . . and, even then, I support decriminalization (just not legalization) of most things. But that's not the case.
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:45 PM
 
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Where there are hard drugs, there is crime. Drugs breed crime. Just look at South Chicago.
Illegal drugs breed crime. When booze was illegal during prohibition it bred crime. Read my entire post. I am not saying street thugs out terrorizing communities are ok, they are not and should be in prison.

I am talking simple possession. Someone has done nothing wrong. They get pulled over for a routine traffic stop. Cops find a small amount of hard drugs and they are taken to jail and possibly lose their car.

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Where there are no masks, there is no crime. It's just a personal choice.

So if there is at least the potential for a crime to happen then constitutional rights can be ended?


But not wearing a mask puts others at risk of getting sick. Multiply that by the millions and people will most certainly get sick from those not wearing masks. Someone with a drug problem, and I have known people who worked a 9-5 job never broke the law, harmed no one but did meth harm no one.

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Old 07-08-2020, 01:47 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Where there are hard drugs, there is crime. Drugs breed crime. Just look at South Chicago.


Where there are no masks, there is no crime. It's just a personal choice.
What about liquor Mr. Volstead?
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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What about liquor Mr. Volstead?
We are way past the point of no return with alcohol where banning it really won't do a thing, especially as alcohol is easily produced. Prohibition proved that.

We are not yet at that point with every hard drug, though some wish that we were.
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:52 PM
 
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We are way past the point of no return with alcohol where banning it really won't do a thing, especially as alcohol is easily produced. Prohibition proved that.

We are not yet at that point with every hard drug, though some wish that we were.
So if a crime is easy to do, we should just ignore it?
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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So do you yourself feel drug use should be a choice and if so does that mean you support that mask wearing is a choice. Is that a response to ask the liberals?
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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I am a Libertarian. I believe people should be strongly encouraged to wear a mask by other citizens up the POTUS. But not mandatory.
South Korea, Hong Kong, Sinapore all got rid of COVID quite quickly.

Personal choice OR 40,000 new cases a day. That is a good choice.
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