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Old 01-01-2022, 09:34 AM
 
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Wouldn’t the overwhelming be due to illegal aliens Utilizing the system? Every medical center I have ever walked in outside of the VA system emergency rooms have always been about 98% full of non-English-speaking individuals. I’m just saying. It looked pretty overwhelming to me
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Old 01-01-2022, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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Its overwhelmed because it costs the average household 33k per year.

There's a lot of money in convincing people to use the system.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:41 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Right now, there is more than average need for hospitalization due to covid. It's not fair to make conclusions using recent data. Overall, though, there is concern for rural areas. Many health care facilities are closing due to financial issues.
Those rural institutions began disappearing when obamacare was passed.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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If you want to know why your healthcare is so expensive and why it sucks so bad, follow the money. Obamacare was largely written by industry lobbyists. If we really want efficient, effective, and accessible healthcare, we are going to need to enact a single-payer system. Anything else will continue to perpetuate the waste and fraud that we're dealing with today. Medicare-for-all, or something similar, is the the only real solution.
This implies health care wasn't expensive before Obamacare.

Not sure that is accurate at all.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Doesn't matter what the government invests in health care if people are not willing to observe best practices and take some responsibility for their health.
That 75% of us are overweight- obese, a personal choice, says it all.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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Those rural institutions began disappearing when obamacare was passed.
Again -- rural institutions were disappearing long before Obamacare. I have yet to see any studies that say that was escalated after Obamacare.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Oh but they do. The US is #1 for the percentage of its population on prescription drugs.

Here in the US...."we got a pill for that".
Only country that permits direct advertising of pharmaceuticals to end consumers.

“ Ask your doctor what Fill in the Blank can do for you”.

It is no secret that those who ask for a medication by name are substantially more likely to receive a script for it versus someone with a comparable situation who does not ask.

The cost of advertising is baked into the price of medication.
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Old 01-01-2022, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Those rural institutions began disappearing when obamacare was passed.
80% of the population lives in metro areas.
Rural healthcare has always been challenging.

Simply not enough people in some areas to justify every medical speciality or in some cases, even a hospital without some serious traveling.

Nurses, NP, PAs and MDs are recruited by rural counties with lucrative sign on bonuses and accelerated debt forgiveness.

Obamacare has nothing to do with it.
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Old 01-01-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Again -- rural institutions were disappearing long before Obamacare. I have yet to see any studies that say that was escalated after Obamacare.
People express and repeat opinions as if factual.

People believe anything that seems to validate their perceptions.
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Old 01-01-2022, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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In 2015-6, Trump campaigned on the promise to replace Obamacare with something that would take care of everybody and the government was going to pay for it. He had no plan.

Only difference between Trump and Bernie’s words was that Bernie had a clue how much it would cost.
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