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Old 01-05-2022, 11:35 AM
 
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Strange that this is your take on the the data.

For some time we've known that the death count is far higher than expected death count and Covid death count.

Either Coviid deaths are undercounted, or there is something else going on that is causing the 40% increase in deaths among working age people with life insurance.
No - many people do not realize that. It's mostly COVID focused - and yes, other factors are in play, many of which are related to the COVID response or are drug related.
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Old 01-05-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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If this were true, getting life insurance would be just as difficult as getting earthquake insurance in places like San Francisco. If covid death rate was as high as specific politicians and media outlets squawk 24/7 that it is, there would be a clause in the life insurance contracts that state they won't pay out the death claim for covid, because they'd all go bankrupt with all the death benefits being paid out.

The individual claiming this 40% nonsense is not being truthful.
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Old 01-05-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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A lot of people get health insurance for free through their job. I am a line cook at a hotel which is a job that generally doesn't have great benefits and even I have free life insurance through my job.
The poster you're replying to said Life Insurance, not health insurance.
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Old 01-05-2022, 01:09 PM
 
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Insurance companies call the shots yes, however, you can't ignore the obesity element that trumps many other factors. In case people need to be reminded:

US:

Percent OBESITY/OVERWEIGHT RATE in 1984: 14%

Percent OBESITY/OVERWEIGHT RATE in 2020: 70%
And before the so-called corona pandemic most life insurance companies would decline issuing life insurance policies to individuals who are obese. Because they know from statistical data that individuals who are obese have a higher rate of death than those who are not obese. Now have any life insurance companies changed their issuing criteria since the corona pandemic? I don't think so.
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Old 01-05-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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I don't even listen to people who use the word "pandemic" anymore because it justifies the overreaching and unnecessary response many have had to this virus and the one size fits all solution many of them out in place as a response. The "pandemic" is their narraitive not mine. It's a bad flu that is now endemic which vaccines are now available. People can take them or not but I'm not radically altering my life as a result of others beliefs or actions.
It's a Plandemic.
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Old 01-05-2022, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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And before the so-called corona pandemic most life insurance companies would decline issuing life insurance policies to individuals who are obese. Because they know from statistical data that individuals who are obese have a higher rate of death than those who are not obese. Now have any life insurance companies changed their issuing criteria since the corona pandemic? I don't think so.
Do you have data that actually shows any changes on it, doubt it. The fact of the matter is obesity is one of the key comorbidities for death if an individual has become very sick from COVID. The US has 70% of the population either obese or overweight. The obesity rate is over 30-40% in the majority of states. Prior to the mid 1980's before modern wheat destroyed the food supply, many states never had obesity rates over 5-10% in any given year.

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Old 01-06-2022, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Old 01-06-2022, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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And before the so-called corona pandemic most life insurance companies would decline issuing life insurance policies to individuals who are obese. Because they know from statistical data that individuals who are obese have a higher rate of death than those who are not obese. Now have any life insurance companies changed their issuing criteria since the corona pandemic? I don't think so.
If the life insurance is from your employer, the insurance company doesn't restrict who is covered. It's usually term insurance.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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If the life insurance is from your employer, the insurance company doesn't restrict who is covered. It's usually term insurance.
And in most cases limited to 1-2 x annual comp. This is group life insurance purchased by employers as an employee benefit.

Anything beyond typically requires a health disclosure and sometimes a physical.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64

The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

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Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.
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A few things to take from this...

1- It's not not the unvaxxed causing hospital overcrowding.
2- The government experts are either misinformed or mischievous.
3- Deaths from COVID are only part of this two year disaster.
4- The loss of life in this age rage effects the economy big time in addition to people being paid not to work. It effects tax receipts which has to do with the inability to pay the country's debt's, and our own debts.
How did you get the bolded part from the paragraphs you linked?
1. Just because you have insurance does not mean your vaccinated
2. Would need to know the reason for the increase before blame can be laid, the article you posted does not give any info
3. This is Indiana so I agree, obesity, smoking, drug use are all big reasons in Indiana
4. Indiana is not populated enough to reflect a national trend. It may reflect a problem within the region but that is known, see#3

Take #3, add a weak immune system due to the actions taken in #3, then add something that stresses the entire cardiovascular and immune system, that is how this happens.
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