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Somewhere back a few pages I saw a figure 36 total deaths among a VACCINATED population of 12 million. On this site, over 27,000 vaccinated people have died. What is going on? https://openvaers.com/covid-data
Somewhere back a few pages I saw a figure 36 total deaths among a VACCINATED population of 12 million. On this site, over 27,000 vaccinated people have died. What is going on? https://openvaers.com/covid-data
What is going on is abuse of the VAERS system. VAERS reports are not confirmation that the vaccine caused the incident in the report.
Anti-vaccine sources have been spreading misinformation about VAERS reports since the system was established.
What is going on is abuse of the VAERS system. VAERS reports are not confirmation that the vaccine caused the incident in the report.
Anti-vaccine sources have been spreading misinformation about VAERS reports since the system was established.
Why do you assume that those who question the vaccines (which aren't vaccines anyway) are "anti-vaccine"? Do you know they are against all vaccines? Why the pejorative label, when they might just as well be described as people who have had adverse reactions and are now critical of the vaccine regime? Or people who have seen inconsistencies and outright falsehoods coming from the drug companies? I notice you don't believe Ivermectin helps, either. Are these health care professionals, and the tens of thousands like them nationally, just plain "anti-vaxxers"? https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...ontent=related
Why do you assume that those who question the vaccines (which aren't vaccines anyway) are "anti-vaccine"? Do you know they are against all vaccines? Why the pejorative label, when they might just as well be described as people who have had adverse reactions and are now critical of the vaccine regime? Or people who have seen inconsistencies and outright falsehoods coming from the drug companies? I notice you don't believe Ivermectin helps, either. Are these health care professionals, and the tens of thousands like them nationally, just plain "anti-vaxxers"? https://openvaers.com/covid-data
Why do you assume that those who question the vaccines (which aren't vaccines anyway) are "anti-vaccine"? Do you know they are against all vaccines? Why the pejorative label, when they might just as well be described as people who have had adverse reactions and are now critical of the vaccine regime? Or people who have seen inconsistencies and outright falsehoods coming from the drug companies? I notice you don't believe Ivermectin helps, either. Are these health care professionals, and the tens of thousands like them nationally, just plain "anti-vaxxers"? https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...ontent=related
Misinformation about VAERS is a standard antivaccine tactic which predates covid 19.
Anyone who who posts about VAERS reports with the implication that every report is a confirmed adverse reaction to any vaccine is spreading misinformation.
Your link is from over a year ago.
I have seen no plausible evidence that ivermectin works. It is not a matter of "belief".
They now admit at least 75% of people reported as Covid deaths had AT LEAST FOUR comorbidities.
Not 1 or 2. AT LEAST FOUR.
They say these were extremely unhealthy people to begin with, not just people with a couple complicating factors. So we have shut things down, lost businesses, lost jobs, lost money, lost lives in other ways, harmed children for something that mostly kills people who have EXTREME issues, not just some issues.
And the CDC director won't disclose how many people died OF Covid versus how many died WITH Covid.
On Good Morning America, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky admitted that over 75% of “COVID deaths” occurred in people “who had at least four comorbidities. So really, these are people who are unwell to begin with.”
This guy didn’t have a helmet so that was one comorbidity. Popping wheelies in traffic was another. Alcohol is a third. But it was a Covid death since his blood was tested.
The number of boat-sized people in the USA, the number who have type-2 diabetes, millions that exist by eating large amounts of very poor quality food.
Call me shocked that this "pandemic" is in hyperdrive in the United States.
Misinformation about VAERS is a standard antivaccine tactic which predates covid 19.
Anyone who who posts about VAERS reports with the implication that every report is a confirmed adverse reaction to any vaccine is spreading misinformation.
Your link is from over a year ago.
I have seen no plausible evidence that ivermectin works. It is not a matter of "belief".
]Misinformation about VAERS is a standard antivaccine tactic which predates covid 19.
Except the VAERS data show that reports were almost flat for years, up to the advent of the covid jab, then they skyrocketed.
Anyone who who posts about VAERS reports with the implication that every report is a confirmed adverse reaction to any vaccine is spreading misinformation.
That is not what these reports "imply". The Open VAERS site explicitly states that reports are not necessarily proof of causation.
I have seen no plausible evidence that ivermectin works. It is not a matter of "belief".[/quote]
There is abundant evidence. I am not going to provide links on something that has been settled for some time now.
]Misinformation about VAERS is a standard antivaccine tactic which predates covid 19.
Except the VAERS data show that reports were almost flat for years, up to the advent of the covid jab, then they skyrocketed.
Anyone who who posts about VAERS reports with the implication that every report is a confirmed adverse reaction to any vaccine is spreading misinformation.
That is not what these reports "imply". The Open VAERS site explicitly states that reports are not necessarily proof of causation.
Please explain how these numbers, from the UK government, showing that the vaxxed are at twice the risk of contracting covid than the unvaxxed, are wrong.
There is abundant evidence. I am not going to provide links on something that has been settled for some time now.
The attention focused on the new vaccines is unprecedented. The larger number of reports (most of which are for the usual side effects like sore arms, fatigue, and fever, which are known to happen with all vaccines) is totally to be expected. The VAERS site also makes it clear that no conclusion concerning causation can be made from the number of reports.
If someone posts about VAERS here on this forum in a manner that suggests all VAERS reports are confirmed to be conditions caused by the vaccine, then that is being deliberately misleading. It is a tactic anti-vaccinationists have used long before covid-19 hit.
Your link does not address risk. In order to determine risk, the numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated cases must be adjusted for population. Raw case numbers do not give that information.
What is settled is that there is no convincing evidence that ivermectin works. If it did, all docs treating covid would be using it.
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