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Old 01-11-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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It's nothing short of amazing while also frightening that things which those of us who have been skeptical of the official narrative and for which we have been insulted, condescended upon, condemned as callous, and in some extreme cases, told we deserved to get Covid-19 and die have gradually turned out not to have been conspiracy theories after all.

The media said 500k died in 2020, and the media conveniently blamed this on President Trump. This was used as a campaign ad to portray him as a mass murderer.

I remember seeing reports as far back as 2020 that doctors/hospitals were getting financial incentives to declare every Covid-19 death DUE to Covid-19. To the extent a person who died after a motorcycle accident was given "Covid-19" as cause of death.

The very first clue I realized something was strange was when I saw - March or April 2020 - Fauci saying that Covid-19 was "ten times worse than the flu." Yet on 2/26/2020, in an article he co-authored in The New England Journal of Medicine, Fauci compared Covid-19's infection fatality rate to that of the seasonal flu.

Thankfully, I began to run into videos featuring doctors and scientists (some from Europe) calling out this nonsense.

Little by little, it's emerged. The vaccines are not safe and effective - they cannot and do not stop transmission. Lockdowns didn't work - Florida, South Dakota, Sweden had no lockdowns. Why didn't they see the highest death rates? Texas opened fully early in 2021. Why wasn't TX fraught with Covid-19 deaths all of a sudden.

Emails by Fauci from early 2020 show he know masks didn't work and he said it in plain English.

Now even the pharma companies are admitting their vaccines can cause myocarditis.

Big tech censors anybody who speaks the truth. Ask Dr. Robert Malone.

And now, at last, we hear it from the director of the CDC that 75% of Covid-19 fatalities involved people with serious co-morbidities.

Plenty of posters here wish to adhere to the narrative. Go ahead. It's your right. But time will tell.

Proudly unvaxxed, I consider Fauci a criminal on the order of those convicted at Nuremberg. I will rejoice with every fiber of my being if he does ever face justice before he dies, considering he's already reached his 80th birthday. He's a liar, a crook, a businessman who wants to make pharma richer, and a cold-hearted bureaucrat who doesn't care about the suffering of others.

Mass formation psychosis. It's real and a lot of people on C-D have it. Their pride and ego will not allow them to even consider the evidence, for they lack the bravery to go through anything remotely resembling cognitive dissonance.

If the vaccines as those of us who are skeptics are indeed dangerous and have caused widespread death and bodily damage, and this does come to light, every single one of you who thought the vaccine was safe and effective and took it will be furious - even if you and/or your loved ones remained perfectly healthy. Not every person will suffer damage from the vaccine but it's happened to a lot of people. Add this to the millions of lost jobs, businesses, and myriad other forms of social damage resulting from these measures (separated family, broken relationship, increased abuse of children and spouses, more suicides)....

If the truth ever replaces the lies on mainstream media, the picture will not be a pretty one. I will quietly stand out of the way of anybody who realizes he/she was deceived and is not reluctant to express his/her feelings.

Once again: these claims have been made by skeptics for a long time now. It's more than vindicating, and indeed.... time will tell.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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Next he'll say the Spanish flu is a racist term, while saying nothing about the Black Plague. In other words just a bunch of fake outrage.
It depends on if you can attribute those things to the bad orange man.

I think if he heard about those names from a neutral source, he'd be fine with them.....same as the "Kung Flu"

For our unfortunate friend here, it's all about the TDS.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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That's not what that information indicates.

The "COVID hospitalizations" aren't the number of people in the hospital due to having COVID, they are simply the number of people who are in the hospital that have it. You go to the hospital for a broken leg, they do a COVID test that comes back positive, you are a COVID hospitalization.

They've been doing that from the start because the hospital gets paid per "COVID hospitalization"....it's basically fraud, but they've been getting away with it for years now.

Also, every time someone goes to the ER in a panic over having a case of the sniffles that they are certain is going to kill them because they bought in to the far left narrative about COVID, it counts as a "COVID hospitalization".....as they immediately send that person home.
Total hospitalizations are going up.....the health care system in on the verge of crisis. This is the real threat...not covid itself.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...s-for-patients

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Patients with COVID now fill about 30% of ICU beds in the nation and pediatric COVID hospitalizations are also at the highest rate of the pandemic.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It's nothing short of amazing while also frightening that things which those of us who have been skeptical of the official narrative and for which we have been insulted, condescended upon, condemned as callous, and in some extreme cases, told we deserved to get Covid-19 and die have gradually turned out not to have been conspiracy theories after all.

The media said 500k died in 2020, and the media conveniently blamed this on President Trump. This was used as a campaign ad to portray him as a mass murderer.

I remember seeing reports as far back as 2020 that doctors/hospitals were getting financial incentives to declare every Covid-19 death DUE to Covid-19. To the extent a person who died after a motorcycle accident was given "Covid-19" as cause of death.

The very first clue I realized something was strange was when I saw - March or April 2020 - Fauci saying that Covid-19 was "ten times worse than the flu." Yet on 2/26/2020, in an article he co-authored in The New England Journal of Medicine, Fauci compared Covid-19's infection fatality rate to that of the seasonal flu.

Thankfully, I began to run into videos featuring doctors and scientists (some from Europe) calling out this nonsense.

Little by little, it's emerged. The vaccines are not safe and effective - they cannot and do not stop transmission. Lockdowns didn't work - Florida, South Dakota, Sweden had no lockdowns. Why didn't they see the highest death rates? Texas opened fully early in 2021. Why wasn't TX fraught with Covid-19 deaths all of a sudden.

Emails by Fauci from early 2020 show he know masks didn't work and he said it in plain English.

Now even the pharma companies are admitting their vaccines can cause myocarditis.

Big tech censors anybody who speaks the truth. Ask Dr. Robert Malone.

And now, at last, we hear it from the director of the CDC that 75% of Covid-19 fatalities involved people with serious co-morbidities.

Plenty of posters here wish to adhere to the narrative. Go ahead. It's your right. But time will tell.

Proudly unvaxxed, I consider Fauci a criminal on the order of those convicted at Nuremberg. I will rejoice with every fiber of my being if he does ever face justice before he dies, considering he's already reached his 80th birthday. He's a liar, a crook, a businessman who wants to make pharma richer, and a cold-hearted bureaucrat who doesn't care about the suffering of others.

Mass formation psychosis. It's real and a lot of people on C-D have it. Their pride and ego will not allow them to even consider the evidence, for they lack the bravery to go through anything remotely resembling cognitive dissonance.

If the vaccines as those of us who are skeptics are indeed dangerous and have caused widespread death and bodily damage, and this does come to light, every single one of you who thought the vaccine was safe and effective and took it will be furious - even if you and/or your loved ones remained perfectly healthy. Not every person will suffer damage from the vaccine but it's happened to a lot of people. Add this to the millions of lost jobs, businesses, and myriad other forms of social damage resulting from these measures (separated family, broken relationship, increased abuse of children and spouses, more suicides)....

If the truth ever replaces the lies on mainstream media, the picture will not be a pretty one. I will quietly stand out of the way of anybody who realizes he/she was deceived and is not reluctant to express his/her feelings.

Once again: these claims have been made by skeptics for a long time now. It's more than vindicating, and indeed.... time will tell.
Isn't that pretty much what happened with the Spanish Flu??
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:31 AM
 
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Why cant you understand the Democrats took it to the extreme and remained MORE political the entire year? Biden and Harris (among others) literally saying they wouldnt trust a Trump vaccine. Is that not political?

You really need to just take your blinders off because you are defending the dems way too hard here. They arent going to reward you for doing so.

I agree, Democrats did push the envelope. My biggest issue here is, we have so many problems HERE in the states. Why can't we find a common ground to get this place #1 again. I just happen to push the hypocrisy of each sides. We're the laughing stock of the world.

Just to clarify, I do not agree with Biden's policies or anything he's about. Trump did an awesome job with his policies. However, it's his mouth. I cringed each and every time almost, when he opened it. I was like, don't say anything to embarrass US, as a whole. Don't give the others the gas to burn his butt on what he says...


I'm not seeking any rewards or gratification. Just stating an opinion. Like many others on here. Before our freedom of speech is totally taken away from us by 'Dem.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's not so much about the covid. The primary threat has always been overwhelming our healthcare system....which is happening right now. They can count hospitalizations easier than covid itself.
What data shows that COVID is overwhelming our hospitals?

We have three vaccines,and many treatments, and the most prevalent variant is omicron, which is very mild. We have masks, three vaccines, and we have proven treatments; all in place. And yet you think in Jan 2022, that COVID is "overwhelming our healthcare system?"

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Old 01-11-2022, 08:33 AM
 
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Total hospitalizations are going up.....the health care system in on the verge of crisis. This is the real threat...not covid itself.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...s-for-patients
Right, and the COVID cowardice caused by irresponsible rhetoric the past 2 years is to blame for that.

They have ingested far too much fear porn, so they head to the hospital every time they fart or cough. It clogs up the system and they get counted as a "COVID hospitalization".....then the number of "COVID hospitalizations" are reported on, causing even more irrational fear and more people clogging up the hospitals.


Also, when you cite ICU numbers, you are only citing the number of ICU beds with COVID positive patients, not the number of people in the ICU as a result of COVID.

Technically, George Floyd could be counted as a "COVID death"


We have people doing intentionally dishonest accounting in order to push a narrative....and that narrative has had some pretty negative repercussions. Those pushing the narrative were hoping to use COVID cowardice in order to push through radical social and political changes....they are still trying, but they know their time is running out as the narrative is starting to crumble and the truth is starting to get out there.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:33 AM
 
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Why cant you understand the Democrats took it to the extreme and remained MORE political the entire year? Biden and Harris (among others) literally saying they wouldnt trust a Trump vaccine. Is that not political?

You really need to just take your blinders off because you are defending the dems way too hard here. They arent going to reward you for doing so.
^THIS.

"All we have to do is give up our freedoms so that we can get them back faster - said no one who has ever read a history book" - unknown.
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What data shows that COVID is overwhelming our hospitals?

We have three vaccines,and many treatments, and the most prevalent variant is omicron, which is very mild. We mask mandates, three vaccines, and we have proven treatments; all in place. And yet you think in Jan 2022, that COVID is "overwhelming our healthcare system?"
Foreign media is on it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rRin2eq9fQ
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Old 01-11-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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Total hospitalizations are going up.....the health care system in on the verge of crisis. This is the real threat...not covid itself.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...s-for-patients
Fauci et al are responsible for this. Deliberate decisions were made to forbid early treatments, which meant that the average person who contracted this virus - whether or not a co-morbidity was present - had no other choice but to go home and then to seek hospitalization after things got worse.

Those decisions included making it very hard if not impossible for medical care providers to ensure those with the pathogen could get either ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, and at least for the latter, they only got it at the hospital, when they were already very ill and in high risk of dying. By that time, oftentimes, it was too late.

If therefore the claim will be made hospitalizations are up, it's not necessarily because Sars-COV-2 is that deadly - it isn't, at least for the non-infirm and non-elderly, as it has a survival rate of at least 99%. It is because those who need help have no other help but hospitalization. Early treatments with the aforementioned drugs is inexpensive, safe, and unlike the vaccines, effective.

By pushing vaccines in the middle of a pandemic (which never occurred previously), man-made concoctions confront the previous versions of the virus; the virus then mutates into versions which the vaccines cannot defeat. In nature, viruses do mutate on their own; the Omicron variant is far weaker in terms of causing symptoms and death. But doing what has been done makes the human body less able if not unable to deal with the new variants - this is why these neutrally-labeled "breakthrough" infections have taken place.

Without vaccines, and even with mask mandates and lockdowns and without early treatment, the virus would have reached a far less dangerous mutation before vaccines had been inserted into the picture. This is yet another reason why hospitalizations are allegedly higher.
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