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Old 01-13-2022, 11:53 AM
 
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Leader of Oath Keepers and 10 Other Individuals Indicted in Federal Court for Seditious Conspiracy

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/l...ous-conspiracy

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Eight Others Facing Charges in Two Related Cases
WASHINGTON – A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment yesterday, which was unsealed today, charging 11 defendants with seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

According to court documents, Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, 56, of Granbury, Texas, who is the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers; and Edward Vallejo, 63, of Phoenix, Arizona, are being charged for the first time in connection with events leading up to and including Jan. 6. Rhodes was arrested this morning in Little Elm, Texas, and Vallejo was arrested this morning in Phoenix.

In addition to Rhodes and Vallejo, those named in the indictment include nine previously charged defendants:

 
Old 01-13-2022, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Default 1/6 is now officially an act of sedition

It's been constantly claimed by forum conservatives here that 1/6 was not an "insurrection" because nobody who has been charged in the event yet has been technically charged with "insurrection."

Well, going by that same standard, at least today we can officially say it was an act of sedition.

DOJ indicts Oath Keepers leader, members on seditious conspiracy charges involving Jan. 6 attack
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The Justice Department has unsealed a major indictment charging the leader of the Oath Keepers militia group along with multiple other members with seditious conspiracy related to their alleged coordination in advance of the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The three indictments mark the Justice Department's first Jan. 6 use of the seditious conspiracy charge, which accuses Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes and other members of the group of conspiring to "oppose by force the execution of the laws governing the transfer of presidential power" from outgoing President Donald Trump to incoming President Joe Biden.
According to CNN, 11 have been charged with that crime today.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:09 PM
 
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They've gone further than claiming it's not an "insurrection." Now it's a "hoax!" I look forward to seeing more of these "Oaf Kreepers" charged.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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FBI arrests Oath Keepers leader on Jan. 6 charges
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“The seditious conspiracy indictment alleges that, following the Nov. 3, 2020, presidential election, Rhodes conspired with his co-defendants and others to oppose by force the execution of the laws governing the transfer of presidential power by Jan. 20, 2021,” Justice Department wrote in a release.

“Beginning in late December 2020, via encrypted and private communications applications, Rhodes and various co-conspirators coordinated and planned to travel to Washington, D.C., on or around Jan. 6, 2021, the date of the certification of the electoral college vote, the indictment alleges. Rhodes and several co-conspirators made plans to bring weapons to the area to support the operation. The co-conspirators then traveled across the country to the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area in early January 2021.”

The charges are the first seditious conspiracy charge used in connection with the riot, carrying the risk of up to 20 years in prison for those that “conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force” the government.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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Do the arrests include Stewart Rhodes the Oath Keeper's 'kingpin', or is he still being protected by the powers that be?

https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/st...o-conspirator/

UPDATE:
Looks like they picked him up today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oa...iot/ar-AASKvBu
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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"Interesting" that it's members of the same organization that was run and almost exclusively populated by the FBI that hatched the plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.....


So is this basically their way of admitting the trespassing at the Capitol was another op by the FBI?

Seems that way.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:17 PM
 
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They've gone further than claiming it's not an "insurrection." Now it's a "hoax!" I look forward to seeing more of these "Oaf Kreepers" charged.
Why hasn't anyone been charged with insurrection then? They have been charged with trespassing. You are being played.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:18 PM
 
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Do the arrests include Stewart Rhodes the Oath Keeper's 'kingpin',
Yes. He's the top guy in the list.
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Why hasn't anyone been charged with insurrection then? They have been charged with trespassing. You are being played.
Uh, no, they've been charged with a lot more than trespassing.

In addition to the sedition charges filed today against some of them, here is a list of people the FBI has charged to date:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

You have all kinds of different charges, such as these against a particular person:
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Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Certain Officers; Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Certain Officers Using a Dangerous Weapon; Civil Disorder and Aiding and Abetting; Destruction of Government Property Exceeding $1,000; Obstruction of an Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon; Engaging in Physical Violence in a Restricted Building with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon; Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Act of Physical Violence in the Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in Capitol
Hardly just "trespassing."
 
Old 01-13-2022, 12:24 PM
 
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Hmm


se·di·tion
/səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch



in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/
noun
a violent uprising against an authority or government.
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