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Seems like cruel and unusual punishment to only have 28% vaccination at the main jail in Alameda County and 27% in Sacramento County.
I know that the Sheriff's in Alameda and Sacramento County don't know this but many inmates are only there for weeks or months and will go into public riding buses, going to restaurants and going home to crowded multi-generational households.
Wow, I thought they were "progressive" and "pro-vaccine" in California.
Many of those go to jail a few days, weeks or months and then go back to multi-generational households
Only 28% of inmates are fully-vaccinated in Oakland's Alameda County and 27% in Sacramento County.
Looks like the vaccine is not mandatory, which we should not view as a problem. If the inmates don't want the shot, they shouldn't have to get it. For those who do, it's available, and they'll have protection from hospitalization and death. No problem.
What is the proposal here? That when a deputy picks up a detainee he administers a vaccine dose right after insuring no weapons or contraband are on him.
Looks like the vaccine is not mandatory, which we should not view as a problem. If the inmates don't want the shot, they shouldn't have to get it. For those who do, it's available, and they'll have protection from hospitalization and death. No problem.
We don't know if they can get the vaccine in a timely manner?
If they are being held in California I am going to guess it is the most severe crimes. Why worry about them more than what they did to other people? Pro tip: don't murder, rob and rape during a pandemic. This is from the sheriffs website.
"Keeping public safety in mind, and focusing on vulnerable populations, ACSO continues to cooperate with other branches of the criminal justice system in an effort to reduce the inmate population and minimize the risks presented by COVID-19. Further, Sheriff Ahern has sent a letter to all local police departments requesting that they cite and release any arrestee who does not compromise public safety to minimize the potential COVID-19 exposure to the SRJ population. As a result of this letter, bookings at SRJ have been greatly reduced."
So it seems if you are in jail at this point you are... make your own conclusion.
If they are being held in California I am going to guess it is the most severe crimes. Why worry about them more than what they did to other people? Pro tip: don't murder, rob and rape during a pandemic. This is from the sheriffs website.
"Keeping public safety in mind, and focusing on vulnerable populations, ACSO continues to cooperate with other branches of the criminal justice system in an effort to reduce the inmate population and minimize the risks presented by COVID-19. Further, Sheriff Ahern has sent a letter to all local police departments requesting that they cite and release any arrestee who does not compromise public safety to minimize the potential COVID-19 exposure to the SRJ population. As a result of this letter, bookings at SRJ have been greatly reduced."
So it seems if you are in jail at this point you are... make your own conclusion.
It is the county jail so in many if not most cases innocent until proven guilty applies to those being detained. If the detainee had not been vaccinated at this point he has not been convicted of anything then the state has no more right to force a vaccination on him then it does for its police to force a vaccination on anybody on the street that they encounter who has not gotten vaccinated.
It is the county jail so in many if not most cases innocent until proven guilty applies to those being detained. If the detainee had not been vaccinated at this point he has not been convicted of anything then the state has no more right to force a vaccination on him then it does for its police to force a vaccination on anybody on the street that they encounter who has not gotten vaccinated.
It sounds like they aren't detaining people for even moderate offenses. You think an accused murderer should be let out because of Covid? A nice cell in isolation works well as the jails are not full. Being housed in the SHU if requested would be one of the safest places to hole up.Everybody has the chance to make bail. I don't see the problem. There is no need to find every reason to let potential predators out.
They can be presumed innocent in jail, or make bail like us normal people would have to do in most places. I just read your post again. I am not suggesting anybody be forced to be vaccinated. I am saying I couldn't care less if they are in jail and have no vaccine offered. Segregate them in solitaire. Problem solved.
This isn't five year olds playing sick from school.
It sounds like they aren't detaining people for even moderate offenses. You think an accused murderer should be let out because of Covid? A nice cell in isolation works well as the jails are not full. Being housed in the SHU if requested would be one of the safest places to hole up.Everybody has the chance to make bail. I don't see the problem. There is no need to find every reason to let potential predators out.
They can be presumed innocent in jail, or make bail like us normal people would have to do in most places. I just read your post again. I am not suggesting anybody be forced to be vaccinated. I am saying I couldn't care less if they are in jail and have no vaccine offered. Segregate them in solitaire. Problem solved.
They are not detaining those with moderate offenses and in the larger counties of California not for misdemeanor convictions. But Sheriff's and judicial orders tend to hold the still innocent who accused of major crimes like murder without bail. Always remember in the United States it is innocent until proven guilty.
In effect they can offer the detainee another chance for the jab so don't cry about them who still refuse while they are awaiting a trial.
They are not detaining those with moderate offenses and in the larger counties of California not for misdemeanor convictions. But Sheriff's and judicial orders tend to hold the still innocent who accused of major crimes like murder without bail. Always remember in the United States it is innocent until proven guilty.
In effect they can offer the detainee another chance for the jab so don't cry about them who still refuse while they are awaiting a trial.
We don't know if they can get the vaccine in a timely manner?
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Vaccination update:
Vaccinations for the incarcerated population are administered Tuesday through Thursday. The following stats are as of Jan.13, 2021.
In total, 1346 people were either fully vaccinated prior to or during their incarceration. 622 of them are still in custody, meaning 28.2% of the current jail population is fully vaccinated.
Similarly, 53 out of 173 partially vaccinated individuals are still in custody, meaning only 3.5% of the current population is partially vaccinated.
So, they can get the vaccine three days of the week, and some were fully vaccinated prior to incarceration. For new detainees or newly jailed, they've had ample opportunity prior to being locked up. I'm going to say if they wanted the vaccine, they'd have had it. Just like many of us outside the jails.
Time to move on and stop worrying about those who haven't been vaccinated. Any argument (which, imho, wasn't valid at any point) should no longer be considered now that we're seeing vaccinated able to catch and spread Covid quite readily, and now that we're seeing a much milder form of the virus.
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