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Old 01-23-2022, 11:02 AM
 
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Aborted dead fetal tissue
Cells not tissue. Most of the lines are decades old and are descended from one aborted fetus. The fetal cells used in adenovirus, mumps, rubella, measles, varicella zoster, polio, hepatitis a and rabies all use the same cell line from the same aborted fetus from the 1960s. Using human cells was seen as an improvement over the animal alternative
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:06 AM
 
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I've never really believed the graphene conspiracy theories.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=7a7407a774d7

This article makes a good point that people buy dietary supplements all the time where the ingredients are not regulated and could be in question. Granted they aren't mandated on people like they tried to do with the vaccines. There should be no vaccine and mask mandates. Time to end the pandemic restrictions permanently.

There's something about the formatting of their website, and the sensationalist nature of the video itself, that makes me not believe any of this to be honest. It's like content from the gateway pundit or natural news.

Don't look to Forbes as a leader in truth telling. They are part of the establishment themselves. People need to think for themselves and do their own fact checking beyond what the bought-and-paid-for fact checkers tell you is fake or not. Seriously. IMHO.



This video is very good and raises basic questions everyone should be asking.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:07 AM
 
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Cells not tissue. Most of the lines are decades old and are descended from one aborted fetus. The fetal cells used in adenovirus, mumps, rubella, measles, varicella zoster, polio, hepatitis a and rabies all use the same cell line from the same aborted fetus from the 1960s. Using human cells was seen as an improvement over the animal alternative
Yes, this has been repeated over and over and over again.

Show of hands:

How many believe that the aborted cell lines in the billions of vaccines produced by every vaccine manufacturer in every country for the last FIFTY YEARS all came from one, single abortion that occurred in the 1960s?


Yeah. Me neither.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:09 AM
 
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Not watching the video - is this just a rehash of the whacko "Dr Ruby" claims from last summer?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=58f778ac74d7

...Yet, there are now claims circulating that the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is around 99% graphene oxide. This despite the fact that graphene oxide does not appear on either the FDA or CDC list...
Can you provide the full list of ingredients?

I don’t think you watched the video.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:17 AM
 
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Not watching the video - is this just a rehash of the whacko "Dr Ruby" claims from last summer?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=58f778ac74d7

...Yet, there are now claims circulating that the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is around 99% graphene oxide. This despite the fact that graphene oxide does not appear on either the FDA or CDC list...

It's graphene HYDROXIDE. If you had watched the video instead of closing your mind, you would have known that.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:20 AM
 
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This is how the fact checkers work:


Claim: Grahpine oxide is found in the vaccine. Source: Detailed Lab analysis by multiple organizations.

Fact Checkers: False: there is no vaccine graphite in the vaccine. Source used to support their findings: Phizer literature.

Truth: Phizer does not provide a list of all ingredients in vaccine and likely makes a distinction between the "vaccine" itself and the "delivery system" of the vaccine. So in their twisted minds - there is no grahpine in the vaccine because technically it is in the delivery system. Typical political/legal BS.


And as someone above just noted: they can claim graphine oxide is false if the ingredient is really graphine hydroxide... which may be even worse.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:24 AM
 
Location: West coast
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So they put themselves in a position where they are not liable for anything.
They get to keep their secrets for 75 years.
Somebody signed off on this and we are supposed to be ok with this?
WTF am I missing here?
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:28 AM
 
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It's graphene HYDROXIDE. If you had watched the video instead of closing your mind, you would have known that.
This is the new trend.

Just say something is not true. No research needed. No thought involved. Just respond: that's not true.

Also? It's most effective to post it 4 seconds after the OP. Because then we know that the poster never bothered to look.
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Old 01-23-2022, 11:59 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Can you provide the full list of ingredients?

I don’t think you watched the video.
Good guess, professor, I said I wasn't watching the video.

You didn't answer my question.
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Old 01-23-2022, 12:01 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It's graphene HYDROXIDE. If you had watched the video instead of closing your mind, you would have known that.
The claims from last summer were graphene oxide.

So the new claim is graphene hydroxide, instead?

Any data to back up the assertion that graphene hydroxide is in there, either?


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...tml#Appendix-C

I don't see graphene oxide or hydroxide on the list - do you?
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