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Old 05-02-2022, 09:19 PM
 
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'Unjust?'

Typical entitled mentality, oh how terrible it must be for them to learn the language of the country they leech off of.

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“I feel nervous, but at the same time I feel annoyed because the moment you sit down in the chair and open the laptop for the exam, you see the huge mountain of questions all in English,” Karen, who speaks Spanish and who asked to use her first name only. “You look at it, and you feel like ‘Wow,’ how will I do this?’ The teachers can only help by giving us a dictionary, but we will never finish if we have to translate the entire test word by word. It’s why I’ve failed before.”

“I feel like [the test] is unjust, if it keeps me from graduating,” said Karen, who arrived in the United States from Honduras three years ago.
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:46 PM
 
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Too bad, too sad. If they are here illegally, then they need to leave. They have no business being here and have some nerve complaining about the test.
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:26 PM
 
Location: California
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Can't they use a translate program or something? I see no reason that not knowing English fluently, if you've only recently arrived, should stand in the way of showing your knowledge. Of course if you want to attend a US University after this you'd best learn fast because I wouldn't extend this beyond the first couple years here. It should be priority #1 to learn English so you can participate in society without "othering" yourself and claiming victimhood forever.
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Old 05-02-2022, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The government is begging these people to come here. Of course they are going to come with a list of demands.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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It should be priority #1 to learn English so you can participate in society without "othering" yourself and claiming victimhood forever.
Victimhood is exactly why these people are not encouraged to learn English. The "student" in the article had a 4.0 GPA. How do you get a 4.0 GPA without learning even basic English?

Just one more indication that the public education system is a total failure, as they would have had to "enable" her for the last 3 years by doing things that didn't require her to actually learn the language. This of course means that certain groups can hold them out there as "victims" who need "special treatment".

When I have traveled to other countries, I have tried to learn the language even though I may only be there for a week or so. Not perfect but gets me by, these people have been in the US for years.

But I don't think the real goal is to make these tests available in different languages, it is to get rid of the tests. The last thing educators of today want is another indication that they are failing.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Too bad, too sad. If they are here illegally, then they need to leave. They have no business being here and have some nerve complaining about the test.
I thought it was required to read and speak English to legally immigrate to the United States. We don't need illiterate peasants.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It is a democracy.
She probably still wants to be able to use the lempira at the local 7/11.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:19 AM
 
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I mean they’ll learn English fully because they’ll have to. U til then they’ll need to pass. I’m assuming these are newly arrived immigrants?
I would assume that they are illegal aliens here that only know Spanish. Illegal aliens aren't plain ole immigrants.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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The government is begging these people to come here. Of course they are going to come with a list of demands.
Next the will be demanding free leaf blowers and mops.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I don't believe Karen is her real name.
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