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Old 02-22-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Germany is shutting down gas lines to Russia. Putin about to be hit in his wallet.
Time to add Ukraine into NATO.
All I heard is that Germany put the NS2 certification on hold. I don't know of any other gas pipelines being shut down as you say.

Also, I think a lot of people in Europe and the US are a bit ignorant regarding Russia. It's not that NS2 is that important to Russia, Russia has done fine without NS2 so far.

Russia is baking much bigger cakes, but you will rarely hear about those things in the Western media...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...gest-gas-field

 
Old 02-22-2022, 10:29 AM
 
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Ukraine hasn't wanted to become a NATO member, so its not upto us, or any other NATO member to decide when its their time, or not.

I suppose after this, there wont be much left of Ukraine to join NATO anyways...too late for that.
Of course Ukraine wants to become a Nato member, it is in their constitution someone said on tv.
 
Old 02-22-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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All I heard is that Germany put the NS2 certification on hold. I don't know of any other gas pipelines being shut down as you say.

Also, I think a lot of people in Europe and the US are a bit ignorant regarding Russia. It's not that NS2 is that important to Russia, Russia has done fine without NS2 so far.

Russia is baking much bigger cakes, but you will rarely hear about those things in the Western media...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...gest-gas-field

The whole stink of course was not about Russia shipping gas to Germany, but that it refused to ship it via Ukraine.

In the mind of American government, Russia was supposed to continue to subsidize the Ukrainian economy and to be controlled by the Nationalists there via that pipe, while the US/Nato were keeping militarizing Ukraine as "anti-Russian project."

THAT's what it was all about, and not about Russia supplying gas to Germany in general.

As long as this rout would be controlled by the Ukrainian nationalists, this would be all good.



Too bad Putin is no fool.
 
Old 02-22-2022, 10:38 AM
 
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Of course Ukraine wants to become a Nato member, it is in their constitution someone said on tv.

Their post 2014 government to be more precise and those that fervently support it.

What Ukrainians in general initially thought about it - it's hard to tell now.



Since there is no democracy there, and everyone who dares to argue is threatened by the nationalists, plus their propaganda and brainwashing were going non-stop for the last seven years, so...




"Ukraine is not a democracy - it's Biden's client state" ©Tucker Carlson
 
Old 02-22-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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All I heard is that Germany put the NS2 certification on hold. I don't know of any other gas pipelines being shut down as you say.

Also, I think a lot of people in Europe and the US are a bit ignorant regarding Russia. It's not that NS2 is that important to Russia, Russia has done fine without NS2 so far.

Russia is baking much bigger cakes, but you will rarely hear about those things in the Western media...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...gest-gas-field

Oh, yeah. Low GDP, high inflation for years, economy that has nothing else but gas or oil and no high tech, rapidly shinking and aging population, worthless and declining currency etc.



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Of course Ukraine wants to become a Nato member, it is in their constitution someone said on tv.


I heard Putin has a tiny ****. They said so on TV.




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The whole stink of course was not about Russia shipping gas to Germany, but that it refused to ship it via Ukraine.

In the mind of American government, Russia was supposed to continue to subsidize the Ukrainian economy and to be controlled by the Nationalists there via that pipe, while the US/Nato were keeping militarizing Ukraine as "anti-Russian project."

THAT's what it was all about, and not about Russia supplying gas to Germany in general.

As long as this rout would be controlled by the Ukrainian nationalists, this would be all good.



Too bad Putin is no fool.

Is Adolf Putin the President of Ukraine now?

I love the Russian trolls. Russia is nothing but a steadily declining country.
 
Old 02-22-2022, 11:17 AM
 
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Oh, yeah. Low GDP, high inflation for years, economy that has nothing else but gas or oil and no high tech, rapidly shinking and aging population, worthless and declining currency etc.


I heard Putin has a tiny ****. They said so on TV.


Is Adolf Putin the President of Ukraine now?

I love the Russian trolls. Russia is nothing but a steadily declining country.

Yet another victim of yesterday's *mishap.*


It's OK, don't get overly upset about the LDNR being finally set free from the Nazi oppression.

As I've already said - "too little, too late."


On another hand of course - better later than never.
 
Old 02-22-2022, 11:19 AM
 
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Yet another victim of yesterday's *mishap.*


It's OK, don't get overly upset about the LDNR being finally set free from the Nazi oppression.

As I've already said - "too little, too late."


On another hand of course - better later than never.

Your country is worthless. Always has been, always will be.
Wasn't only Adolf who was gone after 1945. 28 Mil. Russians too. That's what you call a victory, right?
 
Old 02-22-2022, 11:22 AM
 
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Your country is worthless. Always has been, always will be.
Wasn't only Adolf who was gone after 1945. 28 Mil. Russians too. That's what you call a victory, right?

I am a US citizen pumpkin.

I just call the BS a BS when I see it.

And everything I saw that happened in Ukraine is a BS big time.


Now quit whining already.
 
Old 02-23-2022, 01:41 AM
 
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Ukrainian Nazis do not stop shelling the settlements of the DPR. Nazi saboteurs commit terrorist explosions on the territory of Donetsk. There was an explosion at the house of journalists. Undermining a car with civilians. Tonight, 28 residential buildings were destroyed by mortar fire. Ukrainian (pro-American) Nazis continue the inhuman genocide of the Russian population. Not a single Western media has ever visited the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk, although there were many invitations. The Western layman is stuffed with outrageous anti-Russian propaganda, sowing Russophobic sentiments. Grandpa Biden apparently does not understand that this is leading the world to nuclear annihilation. Biden, like Hitler, enslaved Europe (Europe gave up its sovereignty completely) and is now trying (like Hitler) to go east. Only he doesn't know the Russians again, this time they won't stop in Berlin, they'll go all the way to Washington.
 
Old 02-23-2022, 01:52 AM
 
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Crazy narrow-minded Biden-Hitler decided to lead a campaign against Russia. He is weak.
He has already crossed the red lines, in connection with this, the Americans should already begin to worry and do not rely on their army of gays and transvestites.
In the struggle for hegemony, the United States is ready to kill itself. Well, welcome to hell.
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