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Old 02-20-2022, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Would Russia really become global pariah?
USA and EU are not the whole globe. China, India, South America countries, Asian countries, some European countries, CSTO countries, etc. are dealing with Russia and will keep dealing with her. And these countries make up about 75% of the world's population. So, what global pariah you are talking about?

On the other hand, USA and their political puppet EU will be in the minority over time with their egoistic, greedy and warmongering policy. Their economics is weakening day after day and they may soon become global pariah themselves. This is how mistress Karma works.

Just read recent joint statement of Russia and China and you will see that the New World Order is born, in which there will be no place for the USA if they do not change their policy towards other countries of the globe. The world policemen and hegemon will die very soon. The future of the world is a multipolar world based on peace and mutual respect.

 
Old 02-20-2022, 08:33 AM
 
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Well it seems Boris may have seen their "plans" because he says Russia is planning the biggest war since 1945.

The propaganda is getting thicker as the days go by.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60448162
Evidence suggests Russia is planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945", Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.
He told the BBC's Sophie Raworth in an interview: "All the signs are that the plan has already in some senses begun."
 
Old 02-20-2022, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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And Zelensky is telling the west that they cannot wait for the war to begin to "take action".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ent/ar-AAU4UGL
“The security architecture of our world is brittle, it is obsolete,” Zelensky said on Saturday during a defiant speech at a security conference in Munich. He accused governments of “egotism,” “arrogance” and “appeasement” as he urged Western leaders to publicly state their plans for sanctions on Russia, saying that after the war begins would be too late.

“Action is needed,” he insisted, adding that “this is not about war in Ukraine, this is about war in Europe.”
 
Old 02-20-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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Well it seems Boris may have seen their "plans" because he says Russia is planning the biggest war since 1945.

The propaganda is getting thicker as the days go by.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60448162
Evidence suggests Russia is planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945", Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.
He told the BBC's Sophie Raworth in an interview: "All the signs are that the plan has already in some senses begun."
Boris Johnson is one of beloved sons of Satan.
 
Old 02-20-2022, 08:47 AM
 
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Boris Johnson is one of beloved sons of Satan.
The UK is standing solid with the US in going to war with Russia.

But not everyone else in Europe is on board.
 
Old 02-20-2022, 08:59 AM
 
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The UK is standing solid with the US in going to war with Russia.

But not everyone else in Europe is on board.
This is because some European politicians still have some brain.
They understand this war is needed desperately only for the USA and the UK, but their own economics will be totally ruined.
 
Old 02-20-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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But not everyone else in Europe is on board.
Correct, but the left thinks they are.

Germany can't and won't jeopardize Ukraine over Germany's own dependency on Russian gas. It's never going to happen.

This is why Germany sent helmets and that's about it.
 
Old 02-20-2022, 09:41 AM
 
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A war in Ukraine would have the potential to kill a lot of people.

As for sanctions, there has never been total sanctions and complete economic isolationism.

In terms of the Russian economy nit's already a joke, which is one of the reasons why Putin is trying to deflect attention to Ukraine.

The Russian economy is only slightly bigger than Brazil or Canada and no where near the US or China, or indeed many large European countries such as Germany, France, Italy and the UK.

A country rich in resources with a population of 145 million, should have a much better GDP than Russia does.

Russia GDP is 1.48 trillion USD (2020).

Chinese GDP is 14.72 trillion USD (2020)

USA GDP is 20.94 trillion USD (2020)

Brazil GDP 1.44 trillion USD (2020)

South Korea GDP 1.63 trillion USD (2020)

Canada GDP 1.643 trillion USD (2020)

Australia GDP 1.331 trillion USD (2020)

Italy GDP 1.88 trillion USD (2020)

UK GDP 2.708 trillion USD (2020)

France 2.60 trillion USD (2020)

Germany 3.80 trillion USD (2020)

Japan 5.06 trillion USD (2019)

You mean the world will "take note" of it finally?

Because so far all those deaths of civilians caused by the criminal "pro-American regime" in Kiev didn't bother anyone - either BBC or ABC.


So what's going to change now and why exactly?

Last edited by erasure; 02-20-2022 at 10:05 AM..
 
Old 02-20-2022, 10:01 AM
 
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The Wednesday this post originally referred to has come and gone.
did they invade or was this hyperbole?
 
Old 02-20-2022, 10:08 AM
 
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The Wednesday this post originally referred to has come and gone.
did they invade or was this hyperbole?

They are still verifying the "approximate dates" with the Ukrainian Army ( or the Nationalist battalions - whichever comes first,) when they'll finally be ready to attack the LDNR.

But judging by the mass evacuation of civilians form the LDNR - they pounded them enough by now, so that the LDNR would take some actions in response.

The rest remains to be seen.
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