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Old 02-16-2022, 01:17 PM
 
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We can still buy gas without it and that gas is cheaper. Ethanol is not good for some gasoline engines.
Around here most of the time it's tough to find 100% gasoline. I have to genuflect to find 100% gas when I lay up my boat for the winter.
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Western PA
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IS there way to attach a .doc file people can read? I do a white paper every few years on the resources needed to replace just gasoline for cars....land, water etc. It amplifies the ADM boondoggle in 1993 they got us into.


(not to mention no one questions why the frig we use oxygenates on closed loop systems in todays cars....a waste)
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:24 PM
 
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Let's not be blaming the "left" for ethanol. It's been a bipartisan handout to rural America where the corn is raised and the ethanol produced. No president has had the political will to stop this ridiculous farm welfare scheme.
That may be too truthful for this board.
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Around here most of the time it's tough to find 100% gasoline. I have to genuflect to find 100% gas when I lay up my boat for the winter.
Same here. It is so scarce as to be unobtainable. Funny thing I noticed when I travel is that the no-ethanol is available all over the midwest corn country at almost every station. It does cost a good 20% more though so you can't make it up in fuel mileage savings.
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:33 PM
 
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Here's a list of ethanol free stations.
https://www.pure-gas.org/
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Old 02-16-2022, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Not to mention, the cost of ethanol has also risen. This, too, contributes to the high cost of gasoline for consumers.
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Old 02-17-2022, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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At one point it made sense. When it started, we needed to stretch the gasoline supply.
Like any government program, it becomes eternal life (like Reagan said.)
It's stupid to use food for fuel and it no longer makes sense.
I hate it; I go out of my way to get pure gas for my lawn stuff.
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Old 02-18-2022, 05:12 AM
 
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Here's a list of ethanol free stations.
https://www.pure-gas.org/
Not complete, I bought ethanol free gas at a station two days ago that is not on there.
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Old 02-18-2022, 05:28 AM
 
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We can still buy gas without it and that gas is cheaper. Ethanol is not good for some gasoline engines.

Around here you can find it at a couple stations but it is twice the price of ethanol gas. Ethanol gas does not store very well as the alcohol absorbs water from the air and ruins it in a couple of months. Plus small engines hate it. It gums up carburetors, dissolves fuel lines and makes the air cooled engines run hotter. All this comes in play with things you use once in awhile like generators, lawn mowers and other yard equipment. I keep some of the expensive stuff in my generator and, when needed, use the cheap stuff for continuous running. I then replace it with real gas when it's time to put it away. Unfortunately we camp with out RV quite a bit so that gets pricey.
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:51 AM
 
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the ethanol requirement never made much sense to me..



https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/s...than-gasoline/
I always thought it so hilarious how so many "environmentalists" were FOR ethanol without realizing how "bad" for the environment it really is.
Farmer's seeing a high demand cleared thousands more wooded areas, planted more corn, harvested it, transported it etc, using big gas guzzler machinery which in there minds is "harmful" for the environment.

Plus it takes MORE "harmful" energy to convert the corn to ethanol.

Just like all the hoopla about "plastic not paper".

Paper comes from trees which are REPLANTED.

Look at all the damage all those plastic bags, and bottles are doing.

These type of people can't see past their noses!
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